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gemini072
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2006 13:49    Post subject: Popular Culture Introduction Reply with quote

Popular culture, commodified and stereotyped as it often is, is not at all, as we sometimes think of it, the arena where we find who we really are, the truth of our experience. It is an arena that is profoundly mythic. It is a theatre of popular desires, a theatre of popular fantasies. It is where we discover and play with the identifications of ourselves, where we are imagined, where we are represented, not only to the audiences out there who do not get the message, but to ourselves for the first time.

-Stuart Hall

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Jul 2006 20:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm Confused I tend to think popular culture is a little more totalitarian than that. It does not treat kids or people who do not fit in well, good.
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PostPosted: Thu 20 Jul 2006 12:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

e harmoni wrote:
Hmm Confused I tend to think popular culture is a little more totalitarian than that. It does not treat kids or people who do not fit in well, good.


I kinda thought that's what he was saying, but in a more ah poetic way? I agree with you, old people don't get represented well in this age of youth, yet youth are presented with an unrealistic way of life. Can you give some examples of it not treating kids well? I want to make sure I can even show that and counter cultural things that are happening

an Arena that is profoundly mythic. Popular desires / fantasies. I think we can use examples of Italians as Mafioso, mulattoes as tragic or shady, mandingos as ultra sexual or ultra dangerous, women as hot n ready esp blond women etc etc

where we are imagined, represented... but to ourselves for the first time.

This is where people tend to get an idea of themselves even if it is the fantasy of the majority?



I think this is all a reason I wanted to name this group pop. culture, realizing that there is what we call American culture but underneath is a whole lot of sub-cultures. And I want to present that here if possible. Poetry(slam) Clubs and Coffee Houses is an example of subcultures and the people that are a part get a different representation of themselves and any given people that take part in.
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PostPosted: Thu 20 Jul 2006 17:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

gemini072 wrote:
Can you give some examples of it not treating kids well? I want to make sure I can even show that and counter cultural things that are happening[/i][/color]

an Arena that is profoundly mythic. Popular desires / fantasies. I think we can use examples of Italians as Mafioso, mulattoes as tragic or shady, mandingos as ultra sexual or ultra dangerous, women as hot n ready esp blond women etc etc


How's it going, gem?

Yeah... you're are right about the mafiosi being glamorized desired thing in our culture.

As for your question to me, I think a number of cases where kids have shot-up shools because they were treated cruelly for being different - different from popular culture, are good examples.
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PostPosted: Thu 20 Jul 2006 17:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

e harmoni wrote:
gemini072 wrote:
Can you give some examples of it not treating kids well? I want to make sure I can even show that and counter cultural things that are happening[/i][/color]

an Arena that is profoundly mythic. Popular desires / fantasies. I think we can use examples of Italians as Mafioso, mulattoes as tragic or shady, mandingos as ultra sexual or ultra dangerous, women as hot n ready esp blond women etc etc


How's it going, gem?

Hey EHarmoni

Yeah... you're are right about the mafiosi being glamorized desired thing in our culture.

As for your question to me, I think a number of cases where kids have shot-up shools because they were treated cruelly for being different - different from popular culture, are good examples.


That's true, that is something that even though happens everywhere, during the Leave It To Beaver era as well as certain suburban areas, where style seems to the same all around, anyone who steps out of that get's treated differently: Goths as an example
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