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Salsassin
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 Posted: Mon 10 Jul 2006 21:52 Post subject: Re: Looks |
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| oevega wrote: | | Salsassin wrote: | Yeah, when you can't refute anymore, start repeating like a parrot.
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All Garifuna. Comete esa. |
You know what I mean, Jaime.
They look French!!!
Don't kid me, please. |
French?  French fried maybe. |
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oevega
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| Posted: Mon 10 Jul 2006 22:28 Post subject: refuting |
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| Salsassin wrote: | | Yeah, when you can't refute anymore... |
Jaime. You need glasses.
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Salsassin
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| Posted: Mon 10 Jul 2006 22:58 Post subject: Re: refuting |
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[quote="oevega"] | Salsassin wrote: | | Yeah, when you can't refute anymore... |
Jaime. You need glasses.
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Speak for yourself Omar |
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oevega
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| Posted: Mon 10 Jul 2006 23:41 Post subject: Re: refuting |
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[quote="Salsassin"][quote="oevega"] | Salsassin wrote: | | Yeah, when you can't refute anymore... |
Jaime. You need glasses.
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Speak for yourself Omar |
Wait until night. I will made an statistical analysis to your pictures.
Omar |
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oevega
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| Posted: Tue 11 Jul 2006 02:36 Post subject: Pictures |
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| Salsassin wrote: | | Yeah, when you can't refute anymore, start repeating like a parrot. |
Be serious.
First, the pictures I discard without even arguing.
These women are Black.
These people are also Black. The same phenotype variations exist in West Africa.
This girl is Black. No admixture visible.
All these fellows looks like pure Black to me. Don't you agree?
This lady is Black. No doubt.
This ideal picture of a pseudo Carib is Black, not Amerindian. It is false, of course, because Caribs were originally Amerindians.
In here we see four Black persons and a lady that seems to have admixture. It looks like the last lady is not a Garifuna at all.
In here I percibe certain admiture.
This girl is also Black,
Now, let's analyze the people that might have admixture:
The old women seem to have admixture.
These "garifunas" look completely different from the rest. They look non-Africans (another tribe perhaps  )
This lady seems to have admixture. Well, it depends on the painter.
Now, let's see:
Yes, some Garifunas seem to have some admixture. I don't know which admixture because those features could came from whites or amerindians.
Perhaps you are right that some have admixture.
However, looking at them at first sight is very hard to believe it.
If you count the people on your pictures we find out that of 35 people, 8 seems to have admixture. Then we could estimate that 25% of the garifunas have certain admixture. Perhaps 20% of them have Amerindian admixture. Now, it is obvious that you choose the pictures of people that seem to have admixture, so the population is not representative.
However, I give up. I believe in your good faith.
Perhaps you are right and Garifunas have some Amerindian admixture in them. Perhaps even a 5% of theirs DNA. Who knows?
In that case I am more Amerindian than them
But, that's OK. I give you the victory for now. Just look at more papers only to know about it.
Regards,
Omar Vega |
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levefliker
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| Posted: Tue 11 Jul 2006 02:46 Post subject: Re: Teaching Race in Venezuela |
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| oevega wrote: |
Actually, you could be burn alive because of homosexuality in the Spanish Empire. Although, there is a case of a suspected fellow who is supposed to have been a "gay conquistador".
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Ok then maybe not a Spanish thing... but the British navies were much more liberal as well the pirate culture. |
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oevega
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| Posted: Tue 11 Jul 2006 13:59 Post subject: Re: Teaching Race in Venezuela |
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| e harmoni wrote: | | oevega wrote: |
Actually, you could be burn alive because of homosexuality in the Spanish Empire. Although, there is a case of a suspected fellow who is supposed to have been a "gay conquistador".
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Ok then maybe not a Spanish thing... but the British navies were much more liberal as well the pirate culture. |
Well,
Don't tell anybody but in the hispanic culture, as you well know it not very symphatetic to British culture, people think that the "ambiguity" is the way of living of the British man, and not only Pirates
I hope 007 is not reading this, post though
Omar |
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Salsassin
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| Posted: Tue 11 Jul 2006 16:49 Post subject: Re: Pictures |
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| oevega wrote: |
These women are Black. |
Your eyeballing capacity is humorous.
I'm sure she is just Black for you as well.
Or him:
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These people are also Black. The same phenotype variations exist in West Africa.
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West Africa already has a lot of admixture. The third one looks mixed.
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This girl is Black. No admixture visible. |
LOL, Just like Cecilia Tait a Zamba of Peru. She looks like she could go either way.
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All these fellows looks like pure Black to me. Don't you agree?
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Nope. The guitarist looks zambo or East African. I doubt he is East African.
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This lady is Black. No doubt.
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Yes, a heavily mixed black person.
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This ideal picture of a pseudo Carib is Black, not Amerindian. It is false, of course, because Caribs were originally Amerindians.
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More stupidity, the guy shows heavy admixture. And he is a true Carib. As Carib is an ethnicity. 
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In here we see four Black persons and a lady that seems to have admixture. It looks like the last lady is not a Garifuna at all. |
They are all Garifuna
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In here I percibe certain admiture. |
LMAO. Your capacity for perception of mix possibility is next to nil. LMAO.
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This girl is also Black,
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Of course she is. But mixed. Feel free to show me one African group without admixture with those features. She is lighter than some Afrochileans.
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Yeah right.
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The old women seem to have admixture.
These "garifunas" look completely different from the rest. They look non-Africans (another tribe perhaps )
This lady seems to have admixture. Well, it depends on the painter. |
No matter how you paint her.
| Quote: | If you count the people on your pictures we find out that of 35 people, 8 seems to have admixture. Then we could estimate that 25% of the garifunas have certain admixture. Perhaps 20% of them have Amerindian admixture. Now, it is obvious that you choose the pictures of people that seem to have admixture, so the population is not representative.
However, I give up. I believe in your good faith.
Perhaps you are right and Garifunas have some Amerindian admixture in them. Perhaps even a 5% of theirs DNA. Who knows?
In that case I am more Amerindian than them |
Yeah, right. I'll wait to see your DNA test.
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oevega
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| Posted: Tue 11 Jul 2006 17:39 Post subject: Re: Pictures |
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| Salsassin wrote: | ...
...More stupidity, the guy shows heavy admixture. And he is a true Carib. As Carib is an ethnicity. |
Well, you are the guy that does not want to see. Perhaps you need this:
Look at your pseudoCaribbean
And now look at this warrior. Don't you see the European features of his face?
He looks more European or Indian than your Garifunas.
I will tell you, I admire zulues because they are REAL.
Go to buy glasses.
Omar |
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Salsassin
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| LOL. You couldn't tell apart a new guinean from an African if you tried. Those two have different hair, different noses and that is a black and white picture, but different skin tone as well. |
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oevega
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| Posted: Wed 12 Jul 2006 03:47 Post subject: Tell appart |
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| Salsassin wrote: | | LOL. You couldn't tell apart a new guinean from an African if you tried. Those two have different hair, different noses and that is a black and white picture, but different skin tone as well. |
Look, if you ask me, I would say that the garifunas look more "Africans" than the zulu of the picture. lol.
This is the garifuna girl
This is an African woman from Africa. Look who looks more "mixed"
This is another African woman, this time a Tuareg.
And these are some African natives that claim for theirs ancestral lands.
Yes, the last ones have some admixture, but not much as you believe.
By the way, the last people are Afrikaners. They have lived in Africa for too long, so that their lands become a ancestral lands for them. They are native Africans now. Congrats Salssasin
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Salsassin
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| Posted: Wed 12 Jul 2006 04:16 Post subject: Re: Tell appart |
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| oevega wrote: | Look, if you ask me, I would say that the garifunas look more "Africans" than the zulu of the picture. lol.
This is the garifuna girl
This is an African woman from Africa. Look who looks more "mixed"
This is another African woman, this time a Tuareg.
Yes Benin has had admixture. So have the Toureg. So they can look mixed as well.
| Quote: | | By the way, the last people are Afrikaners. They have lived in Africa for too long, so that their lands become a ancestral lands for them. They are native Africans now. Congrats Salssasin |
Actually, they are. Native South Africans
Omar |
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