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BillyMadison79
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Salsassin
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BillyMadison79
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| A human that can pass for what racially ? |
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G-Man
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| BillyMadison79 wrote: | | A human that can pass for what racially ? |
Looking at the picture, I would say generically white, as in a person of predominant European ancestry. As to which Euro-Amercian ethnic group you most look like, it's a toss up between Italian and Ashekenazi Jew.
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Dragon Horse
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BillyMadison79:
If I saw you on the street I would think you are Hispanic or maybe Middle Eastern/N.African.
That would be my assumption. |
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MisterLawyer
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Based on the baseball cap, the Al Capone poster and the Godfather poster, I would have to say either Homo Sapiens Sapiens of the North American variety, or Sapiens Sapiens of the North American wanna-be variety.
Now, after taking the tounge out of my cheek, I should point out that most people on this site don't believe in race as a biological construct, but rather in clines, geneflow, excetera. |
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Salsassin
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| BillyMadison79 wrote: | | A human that can pass for what racially ? |
Klingon? Are you going for ethnicity? |
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Dragon Horse
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| Salsassin wrote: | | BillyMadison79 wrote: | | A human that can pass for what racially ? |
Klingon? Are you going for ethnicity? |
My first thought was he was of "terrorist decent".  Just kidding, that was prejudice.  I love Lebanese girls, we need to import more of them...well the Christian ones.  |
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Salsassin
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| I actually pulled something similar in a paleoanthropology forum when some guys were claiming they could read racial types. It was quite amusing. |
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BillyMadison79
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G-Man is right I am an Ashkenazi Jew.
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oevega
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Ashkenazi Jew? I though you were more Latin, perhaps Spaniard, Greek Sephardite or Italian.
Yes, I was convinced you were Italian! After all in the photo you got a picture of the Godfather hunging at the wall.
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BillyMadison79
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| Many Jews can pass for Italians, remember James Caan played an Italian in the Godfather and he's a Jew in real life. |
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Salsassin
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| And then again some Jews are Italian. LOL |
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leosprycat
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| Dragon Horse wrote: | | Salsassin wrote: | | BillyMadison79 wrote: | | A human that can pass for what racially ? |
Klingon? Are you going for ethnicity? |
My first thought was he was of "terrorist decent". Just kidding, that was prejudice. I love Lebanese girls, we need to import more of them...well the Christian ones. |
That's a mighty handsome picture of you there, Mr. Dragon Horse.
I thought that lovely young lady in the picture with you was your
wife (smile). But I see you're single with an eye for the ladies. 
Sir, I saw you on another thread saying White men don't want African
Americans around their daughters. I think almost everyone in the
world has this idea that many White men are subconsciously driven
by the desire to leave their own land, and to humiliate other men
and to conquer other lands; and that many Black men are subconsciously
driven by the desire to leave Black looking women, and to humiliate other
men and to conquer other women. I guess I too am prejudiced, because
I also believe this. I believe the civil rights struggle and almost every
other African American stuggle is based on this, even though it is almost
always vehemently denied. Conquest of primarily land for many Whites,
and conquest of primarily women for many Blacks. Maybe I am wrong?
Who knows? I admit I may be wrong about all of this. Many of our
humanly held beliefs are mistaken, and need work; mine included.
I think that in the case of many African males, it goes back to when
the tribal chiefs used to take almost all the beautiful women for
themselves, having multitudes of women, and leaving almost none for
the other tribal males. Anyway, you can say anything you wish about
the females of other men, and get away with it; because you belong to
a protected minority group. At least I think that's how it works. But Sir,
things do change, and someday the people you're now laughing
at will probably be well thought of in America; and perhaps when there's
no more anti-Muslim war to be fought, it'll be you who are again on the
outside looking in. I hope not. 
In the case of many White males, I think their desire for conquest of land
may go back to when they were perhaps bullied in Pre-historic Africa,
and now feel they must forever protect themselves from what they deem
to be the dangerous darkness that must be continuously beaten back.
Anyway, I know you didn't mean any harm. You're handsome, and I think
almost any lady of any ethnic group would be honored to have you be
attracted to her; and almost any dad would be too, because you seem
to be a fine decent young man; and in the final analysis, it's human
decency that's what is truly important.
Dragon Horse, good speaking with you, Sir. I'm enjoying reading your
various positings, and I'm thrilled to have you here among us. My point
is that you're not prejudice to consider Muslim people to be terrorists,
and the people of the world are not prejudice to see you as a player.
We ourselves and those who went before us, contribute to these
stereotypes that follow us around. We just have to remember
to promise to not cry when they come back to bite us in the
tailfeathers; as they surely almost always do. 
*hahaha*
Mr. Dragon Horse, you're a good man. Sir, my respect and good
wishes for you and each of your loved ones. I hope that my words
have not been taken as offensive. They were not meant to be so.
It's just that we can do better. I know I can, and so can we all.
I am speaking to you as though you are a nephew of mine. It is
because as the days have passed, and as I have read more and
more of your writings, I have grown to think highly of you as a
gentleman and as a future American leader. We're counting on you.
Leo Y. "Ireland" Abdulmalik |
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leosprycat
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| BillyMadison79 wrote: | | G-Man is right I am an Ashkenazi Jew. I was surprised that in another forum some poster said I look like a Mulatto.Some people say the same thing about Paula Abdul and she's Jewish as well. |
Mr. Billy Madison, you fooled me completely (hahaha). I didn't
have a clue. You're a fine looking gentleman, but I just couldn't
place the ethnicity, no matter how hard I kept trying (big smile).
Sir, welcome aboard. It's good having you here among us.
Leo Y. "Ireland" Abdulmalik |
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Dragon Horse
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| no not single...married...I look, don't touch. |
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oevega
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| Dragon Horse wrote: | | no not single...married...I look, don't touch. |
Me too. I don't see the problem with that. God gave us eyes to look 
One just need to wear dark glasses, particularly if the lady-boss at house is jellows, or if mom-in-law is looking around
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leosprycat
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*smile*
Leo
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oevega
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| BillyMadison79 wrote: | | Many Jews can pass for Italians, remember James Caan played an Italian in the Godfather and he's a Jew in real life. |
Pass for Italians? Of course, but more ofter Sephardite Jews, the fellows of Spain. Ashkenazi Jews are frequently Nordic looking.
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Dragon Horse
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[quote="leosprycat"] | Dragon Horse wrote: | | Salsassin wrote: | | BillyMadison79 wrote: | | A human that can pass for what racially ? |
Klingon? Are you going for ethnicity? |
That's a mighty handsome picture of you there, Mr. Dragon Horse.
I thought that lovely young lady in the picture with you was your
wife (smile). But I see you're single with an eye for the ladies.
Sir, I saw you on another thread saying White men don't want African
Americans around their daughters. I think almost everyone in the
world has this idea that many White men are subconsciously driven
by the desire to leave their own land, and to humiliate other men
and to conquer other lands; and that many Black men are subconsciously
driven by the desire to leave Black looking women, and to humiliate other
men and to conquer other women. I guess I too am prejudiced, because
I also believe this. I believe the civil rights struggle and almost every
other African American stuggle is based on this, even though it is almost
always vehemently denied. Conquest of primarily land for many Whites,
and conquest of primarily women for many Blacks. Maybe I am wrong?
Who knows? I admit I may be wrong about all of this. Many of our
humanly held beliefs are mistaken, and need work; mine included.
I think that in the case of many African males, it goes back to when
the tribal chiefs used to take almost all the beautiful women for
themselves, having multitudes of women, and leaving almost none for
the other tribal males. Anyway, you can say anything you wish about
the females of other men, and get away with it; because you belong to
a protected minority group. At least I think that's how it works. But Sir,
things do change, and someday the people you're now laughing
at will probably be well thought of in America; and perhaps when there's
no more anti-Muslim war to be fought, it'll be you who are again on the
outside looking in. I hope not.
In the case of many White males, I think their desire for conquest of land
may go back to when they were perhaps bullied in Pre-historic Africa,
and now feel they must forever protect themselves from what they deem
to be the dangerous darkness that must be continuously beaten back.
Anyway, I know you didn't mean any harm. You're handsome, and I think
almost any lady of any ethnic group would be honored to have you be
attracted to her; and almost any dad would be too, because you seem
to be a fine decent young man; and in the final analysis, it's human
decency that's what is truly important.
Dragon Horse, good speaking with you, Sir. I'm enjoying reading your
various positings, and I'm thrilled to have you here among us. My point
is that you're not prejudice to consider Muslim people to be terrorists,
and the people of the world are not prejudice to see you as a player.
We ourselves and those who went before us, contribute to these
stereotypes that follow us around. We just have to remember
to promise to not cry when they come back to bite us in the
tailfeathers; as they surely almost always do.
*hahaha*
Mr. Dragon Horse, you're a good man. Sir, my respect and good
wishes for you and each of your loved ones. I hope that my words
have not been taken as offensive. They were not meant to be so.
It's just that we can do better. I know I can, and so can we all.
I am speaking to you as though you are a nephew of mine. It is
because as the days have passed, and as I have read more and
more of your writings, I have grown to think highly of you as a
gentleman and as a future American leader. We're counting on you.
Leo Y. "Ireland" Abdulmalik |
Nope, I'm married to the woman in the picture. My wife is a japanese national. I look, don't touch.
I don't buy the argument about white men and black men, that would imply some genetic or cultural argument that goes back hundreds of years. Sorry , I don't buy it. The dynamics you see were born in the United States not in Europe or Africa.
I do think that in prehistoric times on up into early historic (where it was documented) that the result of many wars was the death or enslavement of the men and the rape/enslavement/forced marriage of the women (even happened in the Old Testiment of the bible and in Greek Myth)...on up until Roman times and in some areas of the world even later...
As far as Muslims and being on the outside...uhm I never knew I was "on the inside"...I have nothing against Muslims at all...well the non-radical secular ones who except Western enlightenment values...the other ones I hope they stay in the Middle East and out of Western nations. It is really that simple, I don't believe orthadox or radical Islam are compatible with democracy at all let alone Western Enlightenment liberalism. What they want to do in their majority nations I could care less about...what they do in the West I do care about.
I also do not think that Muslims will ever be well thought of in the West if they insist on Orthadoxy...not while I'm alive anyway...unless they take over the West due to demographics in the future, which is possible in some European nations.
As far as white males in preHistoric Africa...uhm I don't think there were any. I believe what we consider today as "white" evolved in Eastern Europe or Central Asia. There might have been some proto-caucazoids in Africa...in the East...some argue that is what Somalis, Ethiopians, and Sudanese are...who knows...but I do not believe there were Nordic Brad Pit look alike cave men running around in current Kenya or Congo ever.
I did not take offense to what you said, I'm not easily offended...I understand your point and I try very hard to not be too suspicious of Muslims or Arabs/South Asians...most of the ones I have met are good people...but they are also very secular...
Take care. |
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