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Posted: Fri 09 Mar 2007 14:34 Post subject: Anti-Muslim Extremist Laws in Canada??
Apparently a small town in Quebec wants immigrants to accept societal norms or get the heck out. LOL I included a more detailed discription of the new “codes” at the bottom. Yeah they are being called racist, prejudist, and all the other “isms” and “ists” you can probably think of but the truth is this. If you believe pouring acid on women, stoning them, female gentital mutilation are good things then I would say you don’t only NOT belong in Canada, but you DON’T belong in the West at all. I see nothing wrong at all with a country, province, or town stating what they feel are the cultural norms and values in writing.
Attention immigrants, the town of Herouxville in Quebec has a message for you: no stoning women, and no pouring acid on them either.
According to the Canadian Press, the town's council recently passed rules targeting immigrants to make sure there are no misunderstandings about the culture they're joining.
According to reports, the rural town of about 1,300 recently adopted a declaration of "norms" that would-be immigrants need to know if they plan on settling there.
Among the "norms:" kids can't bring weapons to school — no ceremonial daggers used by Sikhs or others. It's also all right for boys and girls to swim together in the same pool. Also, female police officers are empowered to arrest people, and are also allowed to drive, dance and make their own decisions.
Andre Drouin, one of the members of the town council, reportedly said the rules aren't meant to be anti-immigrant. "We're telling people who we are," Drouin said.
An more detailed example:
“The code stipulated the following: That women should be able to show their faces in public and should also be permitted to drive and write cheques. That it is “completely outside norms to [...] kill women by stoning them in public, burning them alive, burning them with acid, circumcising them etc.”
I wonder how many of the area's immigrants engage in these behaviors. I suspect many Middle Eastern and some South Asian immigrants believe in honor killings. It's definitely a problem in some immigrant communities in Europe, and it is practiced here in the U.S. (as quiet as it is kept). Maybe some think FGM is okay too.
Some accommodation could be made by the host society. I suppose the carrying of ceremonial daggers could be replaced with rubber daggers, for example. Other practices should not be tolerated and I would support heavy-handedness in stopping them (honor killings for example)
However, given Canada's official policy of multiculturalism, it won’t be long before the central government penalizes the town’s people and local government.
Joined: 07 Feb 2007 {Posts: 1301 } Location: Lookin DC Metro, Feelin Geneva
Posted: Fri 09 Mar 2007 15:53 Post subject:
I think if anyone believes murdering women in such manners is "good" in any situation than they are not fit to live in any Western nation and should stay where ever they came from.
THe problem with radical Muslims is you can't tell who they are. If they do not do anything outwardly you can not read minds so the only difference between a radical and a poius peaceful one is one has a gun/bomb and the other does not.
Now some might say that, groups like the Amish are sexist and fanatical, but I don't have an issue with them, because Amish do not murder people for being non-Amish. They don't even murder their kids for leaving. Every Amish child at adulthood has an option to leave or stay.
I think if we make laws taht are obviously offensive to pious Muslims they will not move to Western nations, only the more secular type will (for the most part, it is not perfect, but it is a type of filter) so you will see less radicals. I'm 100% for banning any facial coverings or head coverings in schools, etc. I believe that will root out radicals. If people want to live like that they can do it in their Muslim paradises in the Middle East.