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 Posted: Sun 07 Oct 2007 16:03 Post subject: THE MULATO HAVEN |
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| Posted: Sun 07 Oct 2007 16:14 Post subject: DRAPEAU |
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| Posted: Sun 07 Oct 2007 16:18 Post subject: LE DRAPEAU |
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| Posted: Sun 07 Oct 2007 16:19 Post subject: Re: RULES 4 MULATO HAVEN |
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| LSGH wrote: | RULE 4 MULATO HAVEN
No hatin'!
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"Big Brutha DEEN[!] Bluevein All[!]My[!!]-TEE[!!!]" |
It's funny that you're quoting Spike Lee's character from his movie "School Daze" (One of my top three fave movies, btw), considering that he once said this about interracial couples..."I give interracial couples a look. Daggers. They get uncomfortable when they see me on the street." I am a huge fan of his work, but I was so VERY disappointed when he said that.
I apologize if this seems off-topic, it just seemed odd to see that signature quote in a thread started about mulatto haven.  |
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lsgh
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| Posted: Sun 07 Oct 2007 16:30 Post subject: PRETTY YELLOW |
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OH SO PRETTY & OH SO YELLOW...
This site is dedicated to all things bright & lovely.
While there are more than enough cocoa-this & chocolate-that,
there are not enough places for the bright pretties on the net... Until now!
This site subscribes to the paper bag test.
Enjoy, & bask in the warmth that is akin to sunlight!
| Quote: | Thursday, November 29, 2007
PLACAGE
by PrettyYellow
My fascination with the amalgam of our ancestries has been in place for a minute. Probably from the first time I heard the term “Octoroon.” Historical ideas like the Grandfather Clause, the One Drop Theory & the Blue Vein Society boggle my mind. Then I remember that this is America, & for whatever reason we all have to choose a box to mark as our identity at any given moment.
Is race subjective?
And since most of us aren’t fortunate enough to have the resources to trace back to EXACTLY where our ancestors have originated from, doesn’t that serve to kind of cloud our visions a bit about who's more what than someone else? Mike Epps put it best, “You can tell by looking at me that someone was fondled with in the 1800s.” But who was fondled by whom & where did both parties come from? That goes unanswered.
For quite a long while throughout my youth, I was unaware of the color consciousness that plagues the Black community. I don’t remember my introduction to it clearly, I just recall that it felt intrusive & indignant. And it still does. Mind you, I don’t get interrogated by white folks, just Black. Not to sound self righteous, admittedly I too have asked these questions of others, hoping for answers that coincide with mine so I can feel like I have a comrade in this bizarre world of comparisons (if you are as interested as I about the importance of skin tone in our community, & want more insight, I suggest reading Our Kind of People by Lawrence Otis Graham).
I understand that there is a deep, controversial history between light-skinned & dark-skinned people. I get that. But really, when is it going to change? I know most, if not all, of the yellow folks reading this have at times felt like, “Damn, I’m too dark for white people & too light for Black people - MY OWN PEOPLE! What’s really going on? When did this really become an issue worth my defending?”
I had a friend once, who didn’t hold that title too terribly long, who questioned everyone’s everything & came up with her own assumptions when the answers weren’t clear enough for her liking. She used to irk my nerves like no other with that mess. Once we were in the mall & this chick walked by, she was brown-skinned, wearing a shirt that read, “Kiss Me. I’m Irish.” Our convo thereafter went something like this:
Her: Why do Black people feel the need to disassociate themselves with Africa?
Me: What are you talking about?
Her: Her shirt. Like she has to let the world know that she’s Irish. Like she has to tell everyone that she’s something other than African.
Me: It’s kind of obvious that she’s Black, that’s a given. She might not even be Irish, maybe she just thought the shirt was cute. It was a nice color green.
Her: See, you don’t get it. Black people in America take any opportunity they can to try to relate to non-Africans. It can be by wearing a shirt like hers, coloring & straightening your hair, wearing makeup to skew your features, everything, because we’ve been brainwashed to hate Africa & all things associated with it.
Me: You mean everything shallow & surface that really doesn’t matter in the larger scheme of things. I don’t give a fuck if you what kind of shirt you wear, how your hair’s looking, or if you decided to shade your whole face, you are what you are, none of that is going to change it.
Her: See that kind of thinking isn’t going to get us anywhere.
Me: Well the only place I’m trying to get to is the Gap.
This conversation wasn’t just an isolated incident, she did this all the damn time.
Where am I going with this?
Oh yeah, I’m tying this all together by asking the following:
How black is Black enough so as not to have to justify your appearance/ethnicity/race? |
http://prettyyellow.blogspot.com/2007/11/placage.html
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| Posted: Sun 07 Oct 2007 16:46 Post subject: No doubt... |
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I doubt that Spike is a quadroon, but you never know. I'm quite sure he's not 100% African, though. His wife, of course, is what they call light, bright, and almost white, like my dad. However, none of this negates what Spike said.
Anywho, I'm quite sure that "School Daze" played a significant part in my decision to attend Xavier University of Louisiana, if you know what I'm saying. |
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| Posted: Sun 07 Oct 2007 17:51 Post subject: Mary S. Peake |
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MME. MARY S. PEAKE
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| Posted: Sun 07 Oct 2007 18:01 Post subject: Re: REQUIRED WATCHING |
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I think maybe people should stop saying what people are phenotypically, and say so and so looks like _____to me. There is no such thing as a quadroon phenotype. There is a huge range.
I knew a guy from Cameroon who was mistaken for Spike Lee on several occasions.
Negrinho da beija flor is genetically european to the tune of 60 some percent, yet he is darker than many sub-saharan africans.
It is my opinion that this website, given the knowledge contained within it, should try to avoid eyeballing. |
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| Posted: Sun 07 Oct 2007 19:14 Post subject: Re: No doubt... |
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| LSGH wrote: | | Quote: | | Anywho, I'm quite sure that "School Daze" played a significant part in my decision to attend Xavier University of Louisiana, if you know what I'm saying. |
Of course! Your're A Liberated Creole Woman!
That's one of the reasons I went to Hampton:
Which by the way is NOT Black!:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_S._Peake
OUR CREOLE FOUNDER
Now, Madame 'Other', how shall we solve our little "CULAH" problem??? |
You're funny!
Well, I went to college in New Orleans, but I am from Atlantic City, NJ. My mother is white and my father would have been considered a "light skin" or "high yella" black by many people, with his light khaki skin and his blue-green eyes. As far as ancestry goes, he was a mix of African, European, and American and West Indian. For obvious cultural purposes, I never considered myself to be Creole, but I have always considered myself to be mixed/mulatto/black&white.
Now, about what we should do about "culah". I say we bring back the word "colored", so that Americans of African descent can once again be united under one community umbrella, while still maintaining our separate identities of black, mulatto, Creole, etc. What do you think? |
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| Posted: Sun 07 Oct 2007 19:18 Post subject: Re: RULES 4 MULATO HAVEN |
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| LSGH wrote: | | LSGH wrote: | | ummm...spike lee is phenotypically quadroon [1/4 Black] & his wife is Octoroon [1/8 White]---and BLONDE!!!. Spike AIN'T Black! |
CORRECTION:
ummm...spike lee is phenotypically quadroon [1/4 White] & his wife is Octoroon [1/8 Black]---and BLONDE!!!. Spike AIN'T Black! |
Oh, I see what you were trying to say, but your terminology is off. Quadroon only refers to a quarter black. I believe the word you could use to describe what you think is Spike Lee's mix (you're just speculating, right?) is griffe. |
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mulan
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| Posted: Sun 07 Oct 2007 23:12 Post subject: Re: RULES 4 MULATO HAVEN |
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| LSGH wrote: | ummm...spike lee is phenotypically quadroon [1/4 Black] & his wife is Octoroon [1/8 White]---and BLONDE!!!. Spike AIN'T Black!
The Quote is Giancarlo Esposito's---he's 1/2 Italian & Leader of The Mulatto Gamma Phi Gamma...Gamm-ite!! |
spike is black, he's just mixed race as most blacks are. |
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| Posted: Sun 07 Oct 2007 23:14 Post subject: Re: No doubt... |
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| OTHER wrote: | I doubt that Spike is a quadroon, but you never know. I'm quite sure he's not 100% African, though. His wife, of course, is what they call light, bright, and almost white, like my dad. However, none of this negates what Spike said.
Anywho, I'm quite sure that "School Daze" played a significant part in my decision to attend Xavier University of Louisiana, if you know what I'm saying. |
i wish I could source this statement, but I did read somewhere that Spike Lee has an recent Irish predecessor via a consentual union. |
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