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MixedAsian
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 Posted: Sun 25 Nov 2007 14:38 Post subject: Asian Latinos? |
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There are white latinos and black latinos since latino is not a race.
Do you considere Chinese- Cubans as Latinos. I'm not talking about Cubans with chinese ancestry. I'm talking about "full"Chinese who are born and raised in Cuba, who speak Spanish and are assimilated in the Cuban culture.
What about Fujimori. He was born in Japan, but he was the president of Peru and is now a refugee in Japan. His daughter claimed to be Japanese in an interview.
What about Brazilians? |
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Beauty
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| No I wouldn't consider a Cuban person of Asian descent a latino. This is true for white or black Cubans. I have never heard them describing themselves as Latino. I see them as someone from the Caribbean. |
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MixedAsian
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| Posted: Sun 25 Nov 2007 22:59 Post subject: |
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| Beauty wrote: | | No I wouldn't consider a Cuban person of Asian descent a latino. This is true for white or black Cubans. I have never heard them describing themselves as Latino. I see them as someone from the Caribbean. |
why? |
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G-Man
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| Posted: Mon 26 Nov 2007 14:43 Post subject: |
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| Beauty wrote: | | No I wouldn't consider a Cuban person of Asian descent a latino. This is true for white or black Cubans. I have never heard them describing themselves as Latino. I see them as someone from the Caribbean. |
I have heard white and black Cubans (however they define that term) as Latino. I know Cubans who consider people of more or less pure Chinese background and partial Chinese background with roots in Cuba Cuban and/or Latino. |
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punjabtrini
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We seem to be using the North American definition of race/ethnicity to describe other geographic areas of the world and never the twain shall meet! Certain cultures are more accepting regarding the integration of other elements and Cuban culture tends to be more accepting than say, Argentina. Cuban culture has a tendency to be more 'mulato' (Nicolas Guillen's point of view) whereas Argentinian culture is more "European'!
Asians (mainly Chinese)in Cuba are Cuban! My own taijiquan teacher's father who left mainland CHina, went to Cuba in the 50's, left during the 70's, went to New York and opened a Chinese restaurant and it was frequented by all sorts of Cubans.
Chinese Cubans are Latino while saying the degree of mixed parentage determines personal choice. There are many mestizos and indigena (native South American groups) who are called 'chino' because they look like Asians! If one parent is Chinese and the other non Chinese, then the surname or the phenotype MAY be a part of how the individual wants to be perceived based on the societal inclinations/prejudices.
Unmixed Chinese is a different but we are all products of our environment!
It is disconcerting for any group (usally non-whites) to be in USA for over 5 generations and still be asked if you were born here or speak the language though you are as American as any other group and even moreso!
Wilfredo Lam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfredo_Lam |
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Beauty
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| MixedAsian wrote: | | Beauty wrote: | | No I wouldn't consider a Cuban person of Asian descent a latino. This is true for white or black Cubans. I have never heard them describing themselves as Latino. I see them as someone from the Caribbean. |
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I see Latino as an American term. I do not live in America so it not a word I would use to describe someone. |
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G-Man
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| Posted: Fri 30 Nov 2007 18:51 Post subject: |
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| Beauty wrote: | | MixedAsian wrote: | | Beauty wrote: | | No I wouldn't consider a Cuban person of Asian descent a latino. This is true for white or black Cubans. I have never heard them describing themselves as Latino. I see them as someone from the Caribbean. |
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I see Latino as an American term. I do not live in America so it not a word I would use to describe someone. |
Where do you live? Just curious.
Latino is used in Latin America, btw. Usually, we in the U.S. are still stuck on Hispanic or Spanish to describe people from Latin America. |
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punjabtrini
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| G man wrote: | | Latino is used in Latin America, btw. Usually, we in the U.S. are still stuck on Hispanic or Spanish to describe people from Latin America. |
Most of the terms do not do justice to the inhabitants of the geographics area! People from Latin America are not Spaniards because Spaniards are from Spain, hence European.
I have yet to figure out what Hispanic is (don't panic) but it is a US strategy at classification of Spanish speaking people(s).
In my present job, I am managing a clinical trial in Bolivia, Ecuador and Peru and many of the tribal associations were not even reflected with the demographics. People got their identity affiliation chosen by a 3rd party depending on their degree of societal integration.
The indio with his group colours (dressed in native costume) who did not speak Spanish (assumption) was given an native American designation, or at best, he retained his group affiliation (e.g. Quechua) if he could write. That same person who spoke Spanish despite being Quechua was given a 'mestizo' affiliation at best and the one who had a combination of education (spoke spanish and attended university), lived in the urban area, dressed like he had some Western concept of fashion was given a better rating (he could be designated as Spaniard or de la clase alta) and moreso if he had a Spanish surname as opposed to an indigena surname!
So it all depends on alot of stuff! |
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Beauty
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| Posted: Fri 30 Nov 2007 21:34 Post subject: |
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| G-Man wrote: | | Beauty wrote: | | MixedAsian wrote: | | Beauty wrote: | | No I wouldn't consider a Cuban person of Asian descent a latino. This is true for white or black Cubans. I have never heard them describing themselves as Latino. I see them as someone from the Caribbean. |
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I see Latino as an American term. I do not live in America so it not a word I would use to describe someone. |
Where do you live? Just curious.
Latino is used in Latin America, btw. Usually, we in the U.S. are still stuck on Hispanic or Spanish to describe people from Latin America. |
I live in the UK and my parents are from the Caribbean. I am not aware of the trend in the Caribbean to refer Cubans as a Latino. I may be wrong about this. To be honest, I do not really understand terms such as Chicano, Hispanic and Latino. |
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punjabtrini
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| Beauty wrote: | | I live in the UK and my parents are from the Caribbean. I am not aware of the trend in the Caribbean to refer Cubans as a Latino. I may be wrong about this. To be honest, I do not really understand terms such as Chicano, Hispanic and Latino. |
In the US, Cubans have their own identity vis a vis Mexicans, Central Americans and others so the Miami definition of Cuban serves to say these people are mainly descendants of Spaniards born in Cuba, at least those within the Miami political structure. Generically, Cubans are Latino or Hispanic per the US definition.
Chicanos are usually described as the Mexican origin of California, i.e. legal who have been there for generations as opposed to the alleged newly arrived illegals we so often hear about. |
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