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What small-town America is saying about Obama
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PostPosted: Tue 16 Sep 2008 14:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard Miller wrote:
Not necessarily, but can you tell me why it seems like it's black and mixed folks who are not Obama supporters who are the most vocal about their non-support? Sounds to me like they have something to prove.


Who are these people and where have you encountered them?
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Sep 2008 00:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear he's a Muslim or that his middle name is Hussein. I hear that he doesn't wear a flag pin or put his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance. I hear about his wacko preacher who hates America. I hear that people don't like his wife because "she's enjoying it all too much" or that she doesn't like America. I hear that he's just too liberal. I hear that people are not ready to elect a black president.

This is in conservative red state North Dakota, which would not be voting for a Democrat of any race or sex, even though Obama is trying pretty damn hard to make the race competitive. One of his ads here plays up his white mother and grandparents and their Kansas roots. People can relate to that, I think. I have five e-mails a day from his campaign in my e-mail at work (I cover education for a daily newspaper.) I don't think race is that big an issue in North Dakota, at least not with blacks, but most people don't know that many blacks either. The state is 93 percent white and the largest minority is American Indian. It was my American Indian co-worker who said she doesn't think the country's ready to elect a black president. I don't know if she's right. If anything, I think my co-workers hated Hillary more.

I am white and I am voting for Obama, just like I did in the caucus earlier this year. There are things that I'm not enthusiastic about with Obama, but his campaign is more in line with what I want for the country than McCain's. If Hillary had been the nominee I'd have thrown my vote away on Nader or some other strange candidate. I don't like Hillary. I am inclined to like Obama, even though I think he's a bit too slick.
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Sep 2008 12:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL@ the article!

sagascend wrote:
Obama cannot win this voting bloc and shouldn't even try. In my opinion these folks do not know what to make of people like Barack and Michelle Obama, Deval Patrick, Cory Booker, Kenneth Chenault or any other successful middle to upper class Black-identified person.

In addition, "race" aside, Obama is the classic highly educated and wonkish liberal. He is a "smarty pants" that these people cannot relate to. Only integration, education, travel and social mobility would change their minds short of an economic meltdown that would send masses flocking to the Dems in the hopes of a Great Society bailout (again, my opinion). The fact is that people like Barack Obama do not exist in this alternate American universe.

Personally I can understand completely. There are candidates that I deeply mistrust and probably could not be persuaded to vote for them because I believe that they do not share my values.


Definitely agree with the bolded...
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PostPosted: Sat 04 Oct 2008 07:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

At this point, there's nothing Obama could say or do to loose the black vote. The possibility of having a black president is just too great of a thrill for most. He doesn't have to make an effort to appeal to black voters anymore. Sharpton, Jackson and any other well known black "leader", academic or radio personality who questions Obama's policies or his Blackness will face harsh criticism from the black community.

The strong support has given him months to try to win over blue collar democrats but it doesn't seem to be working. Had the party nominated an average white guy with somewhat of a centrist political philosophy, the race would be over by now. If Obama looses it will be, atleast in part, because of racism.
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Oct 2008 20:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlackHaze wrote:
The strong support has given him months to try to win over blue collar democrats but it doesn't seem to be working. Had the party nominated an average white guy with somewhat of a centrist political philosophy, the race would be over by now. If Obama looses it will be, atleast in part, because of racism.


Yes and no. Probably more yes than no. I think there is a contingent of voters whom when polled, will tell the pollers that they will vote for Obama when they in fact have no intentions of doing so. That is why if Obama does not have more than a 10% lead, he will be toast. IMO.
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Oct 2008 02:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

My two cents if we had a black conservative candidate that was really pro family to appeal to the conservative Christians that he would win a lot of middle America votes. It is only a matter of time.

I think a lot of Democrats are missing the boat pondering why they can't win middle America and why they probably won't get any this year - it certainly has little to do with race by looking at the last two elections (all of it in red). For that matter maybe we ought to cede half of NE to Canada, just look at Vermont, good grief Very Happy Then the Democrats couldn't win an election if their life depended on it.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Oct 2008 20:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes bigots are disgusting (as seen by the recent hecklers at the McCain/Palin rally's the other day, whom by the way, made no attempt to acknowledge them) but there is still faith.

http://rednecksforobama.net/
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