Oh boy.
Clinton was President from Jan 1993. The WTC 1993 bombing happened a month later, in February. All the planning happened from 91-92, during George HW Bush's presidency.
So one one hand, you're blaming Clinton for the planning of 9/11 that took place during his time, but then in the same sentence blame him again for the bombing in 1993, in which the planning took place before his time.
Huh?
911 was planned on Clinton's watch, period.
FYI, I have a contact who was with Delta Force for 10 years during the Clinton Admin. Clinton by presidential directive removed the authority of our operatives to kill our enemies whenever and wherever they were found. This is why we couldn't get him in the 90's. Oh yeah, btw, Osama was actually captured by a foreign country and they offered to have him sent to the US and Mr Bill declined. BOTTOM LINE, FOR THOSE IN THE KNOW, 911 HAPPENED BECAUSE OF BILL CLINTON.
Not only that, there are more than 40 tons of unaccounted for uranium not to mention suitcase bombs as well. As soon as we let our defenses down it is only inevitable. I hope you don't live in or around Washington or NY.
Who cares when it was planned? It could have been planned under Ronald Reagan's presidency for all we know - that is strictly conjecture on anyone's part. The fact remains that it was executed under Bush and it was a failing of the Bush presidency to prevent the attack from occurring.
What Bush and Co. was very successful in doing however was spinning the issue. Republican strategists are great at that
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Posted: Sun 12 Oct 2008 19:02 Post subject:
chip wrote:
Famu wrote:
Oh boy.
Clinton was President from Jan 1993. The WTC 1993 bombing happened a month later, in February. All the planning happened from 91-92, during George HW Bush's presidency.
So one one hand, you're blaming Clinton for the planning of 9/11 that took place during his time, but then in the same sentence blame him again for the bombing in 1993, in which the planning took place before his time.
Huh?
911 was planned on Clinton's watch, period.
FYI, I have a contact who was with Delta Force for 10 years during the Clinton Admin. Clinton by presidential directive removed the authority of our operatives to kill our enemies whenever and wherever they were found. This is why we couldn't get him in the 90's. Oh yeah, btw, Osama was actually captured by a foreign country and they offered to have him sent to the US and Mr Bill declined. BOTTOM LINE, FOR THOSE IN THE KNOW, 911 HAPPENED BECAUSE OF BILL CLINTON.
Not only that, there are more than 40 tons of unaccounted for uranium not to mention suitcase bombs as well. As soon as we let our defenses down it is only inevitable. I hope you don't live in or around Washington or NY.
You're in violation of Rule 3.9 - no conspiracy theories.
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Posted: Mon 13 Oct 2008 01:28 Post subject:
Richard Miller wrote:
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You're in violation of Rule 3.9 - no conspiracy theories.
I guess when one actually thinks about 9/11, it really was a conspiracy. The only thing that some people will disagree with is who the conspirators are
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Posted: Mon 13 Oct 2008 20:02 Post subject:
anonymouse wrote:
Who cares when it was planned?
Apparently you don't. However the rest of the intelligence community did and does. It is their job to prevent such attacks and Clinton's repeated failures allowed 911 to happen - this has nothing to do with a President who was in power a matter of months.
I find it incredible that people say Bush should have done something different when the same people are now complaining after the fact that he created laws, etc. to monitor and track down terrorists. This makes little sense as to what reasoning would he have had to implement these laws and change Bill Clinton's directives before anything happened?????
Apparently you don't. However the rest of the intelligence community did and does. It is their job to prevent such attacks and Clinton's repeated failures allowed 911 to happen - this has nothing to do with a President who was in power a matter of months.
I find it incredible that people say Bush should have done something different when the same people are now complaining after the fact that he created laws, etc. to monitor and track down terrorists. This makes little sense as to what reasoning would he have had to implement these laws and change Bill Clinton's directives before anything happened?????
people plan attacks everyday but a low percentage of them are actually acted on. You cannot outlaw idle thought.
When a plan is executed is more important IMHO. Bush had been in place for close to a year. The last time I checked September was the 9th month of the year.
See what gets me is when rabid republicans make up excuses and try to point fingers on why things have happened instead of just owning up to the mistakes. So when we get attacked and some attempt to rationalize that the person in charge is without blame. And when the economy tanks it isn't the fault of our hapless leader and shortsighted congress. And when our international standing is at an all time low it is the fault of those damned furriniers.
Oh boy.
Clinton was President from Jan 1993. The WTC 1993 bombing happened a month later, in February. All the planning happened from 91-92, during George HW Bush's presidency.
So one one hand, you're blaming Clinton for the planning of 9/11 that took place during his time, but then in the same sentence blame him again for the bombing in 1993, in which the planning took place before his time.
Huh?
911 was planned on Clinton's watch, period.
FYI, I have a contact who was with Delta Force for 10 years during the Clinton Admin. Clinton by presidential directive removed the authority of our operatives to kill our enemies whenever and wherever they were found. This is why we couldn't get him in the 90's. Oh yeah, btw, Osama was actually captured by a foreign country and they offered to have him sent to the US and Mr Bill declined. BOTTOM LINE, FOR THOSE IN THE KNOW, 911 HAPPENED BECAUSE OF BILL CLINTON.
Not only that, there are more than 40 tons of unaccounted for uranium not to mention suitcase bombs as well. As soon as we let our defenses down it is only inevitable. I hope you don't live in or around Washington or NY.
Your argument is irrelevant. Did you even read what I was responding to?
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Posted: Wed 15 Oct 2008 12:37 Post subject:
Quote:
911 was planned on Clinton's watch, period.
FYI, I have a contact who was with Delta Force for 10 years during the Clinton Admin. Clinton by presidential directive removed the authority of our operatives to kill our enemies whenever and wherever they were found. This is why we couldn't get him in the 90's. Oh yeah, btw, Osama was actually captured by a foreign country and they offered to have him sent to the US and Mr Bill declined. BOTTOM LINE, FOR THOSE IN THE KNOW, 911 HAPPENED BECAUSE OF BILL CLINTON.
Yup. This is why Clinton is trying to fix his image because he knows history will not be kind to him, despite his popularity. Sex scandals notwithstanding.
Race matters in a racialist, race-obsessed country. Yet spare me the griping about "the Blacks support Obama because he is Black" in a nation with a White majority that has ALWAYS voted for White men for president, and USUALLY votes along racial lines for political candidates.
Let's not act as though White Americans are somehow not racialist (and some racist) and do not consider race in their voting decisions. PLEASE let's not go there. It's asinine. Some, perhaps many, Americans factor in the race of the candidate in their decisions. Do Blacks do this? Yes. Go down the list of racial categories and the answer is "yes." The point is not whether people do this, but whether it is the main or only reason for their behavior.
Obama was not the preferred candidate of Black Democrats until he won Iowa. If the ONLY factor in their voting behavior was race why did Hillary Clinton ever have a lock on the Black vote?
Lastly, many studies have shown that "minority" groups such as African Americans and women exhibit unconscious bias against their labeled groups. So, to me, this is another reason why "minority" and female candidates can be discriminated against even by their own.
if I were american I would vote for Cynthia Mckinney, I Like her values, and I dont get why people make such a big deal about Obama being black, he might not even take care of you, even if he is voted into presidency, it want stop people from retaining racist attitudes. Actually, some may see Obama as their slave, or a 'maintenance' worker, racism can propagate in many different way.s.