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DChapman Moderator

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Posted: Fri 31 Oct 2008 12:26 Post subject: 2 arrested for hanging Obama effigy on Ky. campus |
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| Quote: | 2 arrested for hanging Obama effigy on Ky. campus
By ROGER ALFORD - Associated Press Writer LEXINGTON, Ky. -- A University of Kentucky student and another man were arrested Thursday, accused of hanging a life-sized likeness of Barack Obama from a tree on the campus.
The incident was one of several in recent weeks involving effigies of the presidential candidates or their running mates. No charges have been filed in four other cases that have made national headlines.
UK Interim Police Chief Joe Monroe said the men "expressed remorse for a stunt that had gotten out of hand."
Arrested were Joe Fischer, 22, a UK student, and Hunter Bush, 21, both of Lexington. Both were being held at Fayette County Detention Center on charges of disorderly conduct related to the hanging of the effigy. They were also charged with burglary and theft at a fraternity house where police said the materials came from.
Lt. Tina Strange, a deputy jailer at the detention center, did not know who the men's attorneys were. She said they were each being held on $7,600 bond.
Monroe said the two men told detectives they decided to hang the effigy after seeing media reports about a Sarah Palin effigy in California.
Witnesses who saw the effigy Wednesday said it was life-sized with an Obama Halloween mask, a suit jacket and sweat pants. It was found hanging from a tree with a noose around its neck.
UK President Lee Todd said the effigy violates the university's code of ethics, and Fischer faces punishment that could include expulsion.
"As outrageous and offensive an act as the effigy was, I truly believe it has mobilized our campus, the community and the state in an effort to battle racism," Todd said Thursday.
It was the second time in about a month such an effigy was found on a college campus. George Fox University, a small Christian college in Oregon, recently punished four students who confessed to hanging a likeness of Obama from a tree.
Meanwhile, a Redondo Beach, Calif., woman removed a Halloween effigy of Barack Obama that was hanging from her balcony with a butcher knife in its neck. She took it down Thursday after neighbors complained.
In West Hollywood, Calif., a man removed an effigy of GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin from his yard Wednesday after several weeks of complaints.
And in Clarksville, Ind., a man had hanged an inflatable doll made to look like Obama from a tree. He took it down Wednesday, and authorities said it didn't appear to violate any state laws.
Associated Press Writer Joe Biesk in Frankfort contributed to this report.
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Melani23 Superuser

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Posted: Fri 31 Oct 2008 13:47 Post subject: |
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So what?
Palin has had many effigies as well. I'm just waiting for the 'Americans Are Racist' if Obama loses.
LOL!

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DChapman Moderator

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Posted: Fri 31 Oct 2008 14:26 Post subject: |
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| Melani23 wrote: | So what?
Palin has had many effigies as well. I'm just waiting for the 'Americans Are Racist' if Obama loses.
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Be prepared if he loses. |
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sagascend Moderator

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Posted: Fri 31 Oct 2008 16:22 Post subject: |
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| Melani23 wrote: | So what?
Palin has had many effigies as well. I'm just waiting for the 'Americans Are Racist' if Obama loses.
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Were any hung on someone else's private or public property? That's the difference. |
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sagascend Moderator

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Posted: Fri 31 Oct 2008 17:58 Post subject: |
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| And Palin "effigies?" Please post the news stories about any incident other than the one in West Hollywood. |
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Melani23 Superuser

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Posted: Fri 31 Oct 2008 18:05 Post subject: |
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| sagascend wrote: | | And Palin "effigies?" Please post the news stories about any incident other than the one in West Hollywood. |
Okay. I'll try to find them and post them. I've heard of several between the blogs and news reports.
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DChapman Moderator

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Posted: Fri 31 Oct 2008 19:20 Post subject: |
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| sagascend wrote: | | Melani23 wrote: | So what?
Palin has had many effigies as well. I'm just waiting for the 'Americans Are Racist' if Obama loses.
LOL!
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Were any hung on someone else's private or public property? That's the difference. |
Do you honestly believe than an Obama effigy hung on private property would have gathered the same lack of interest than the Palin effigy???
They are both wrong and unacceptible, but come on. The Feds would have been on them in a nanosecond. |
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Melani23 Superuser

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sagascend Moderator

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Posted: Fri 31 Oct 2008 20:56 Post subject: |
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| DChapman wrote: | | sagascend wrote: | | Melani23 wrote: | So what?
Palin has had many effigies as well. I'm just waiting for the 'Americans Are Racist' if Obama loses.
LOL!
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Were any hung on someone else's private or public property? That's the difference. |
Do you honestly believe than an Obama effigy hung on private property would have gathered the same lack of interest than the Palin effigy???
They are both wrong and unacceptible, but come on. The Feds would have been on them in a nanosecond. |
Okay, for one, to hang a Black man in effigy carries a historical connotation that no one should overlook. If someone pinched Todd Palin's butt and called him a "hottie" it would also not have the connotation of sexism that the same behavior would if it was Sarah Palin.
That is not political, it is simply the way it is. To ignore the historical dynamics/connotations that arise in these depictions isn't even rational.
Second, the person who hung the Obama effigy did NOT do so in his backyard or on his private property. It was at a university for goodness sake, and a public one at that! Excuse me, but if the distinction isn't clear on that basis I don't know what else can clarify it.
"The Feds" should absolutely investigate such a crime because of where it happened. In the case of the moron who hung the Palin effigy, what's to investigate??? He said he did it, it was his property, the mayor asked him to take it down, and he did. If he actually committed a crime, he would be arrested. |
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