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Bischoff Mentor

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Bischoff Mentor

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Posted: Sun 04 May 2008 20:51 Post subject: |
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| As you can see the further north you get from the Mediterranean region the higher the frequency of light eyes to the point where it starts to outnumber brown eyes. |
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Grasshoppa Mentor

Joined: 07 Oct 2007 {Posts: 203 } Location: United States
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Posted: Mon 05 May 2008 11:36 Post subject: |
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| What I don't understand is why people at higher latitudes in Asia don't have light eyes at such a frequency as in northern Europe. |
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fwsweet Administrator

Joined: 26 Nov 2004 {Posts: 4586 } Location: Palm Coast, FL
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Posted: Mon 05 May 2008 11:49 Post subject: |
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| Grasshoppa wrote: | | What I don't understand is why people at higher latitudes in Asia don't have light eyes at such a frequency as in northern Europe. |
The odd northern European region of eye depigmentation matches the northern European region of hair depigmentation and the northern European region of skin depigmentation. It is simply a world-unique region of depigmentation.
Latitude (incident solar UV) is not the whole story. That region is the only spot on the planet where grains can be grown at such high latitude (it is where the warm Gulf Stream ends). Hence, it is the only spot on earth whose inhabitants can adopt a grain-based diet (lacking vitamin D), and still receive inadequate UV to synthesize vitamin D in the skin if they are normally pigmented.
See The Paleo-Etiology of Human Skin Tone for details. |
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Bischoff Mentor

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Posted: Mon 05 May 2008 22:10 Post subject: |
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| Light eyes are so common in Northern Europe that it's not even considered an exotic eyecolor since most people there have them. Unlike in most regions of the world where brown is by far the dominant eyecolor so if you live in those regions and you have light eyes you are considered exotic looking to the locals/natives. |
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Bischoff Mentor

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| Very few families in Europe or their diaspora descendents are entirely brown eyed. And when I say family I am including extended as well not just immediate, because I have seen immediate White families that are entirely brown eyed but I have never seen an entire White family tree not have a single light eyed relative since most if not all people who are socially eyeballed by most people as White carry the genes that can create light eyes. All the self identified White people I know fall into one of two categories and that is they are either light eyed themselves or if they are not, they atleast have family members who are. I personally do not know a single White person who does not have a single light eyed relative in their family tree. Maybe these types exist but they must be a very very small minority. If not in the immediate, most know of atleast an aunt, uncle and or cousin with non brown eyes. |
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sir alcal New User

Joined: 01 Sep 2008 {Posts: 30 } Location: italy
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Posted: Sat 06 Sep 2008 13:49 Post subject: Re: Frequency Of Fair Eyes In Europe |
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Some areas as Turkey and Algeria have the Frequency of fair eyes of Northen Italy.
Can we take such map seriously? |
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fwsweet Administrator

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Posted: Sat 06 Sep 2008 14:02 Post subject: Re: Frequency Of Fair Eyes In Europe |
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| sir alcal wrote: | | Some areas as Turkey and Algeria have the Frequency of fair eyes of Northen Italy. Can we take such map seriously? |
Why not? The map is talking about a small fraction of the population. Regarding Algeria, check out French colonialism. Regarding Greece and Turkey, read up on the Varangians. When armies conquer and occupy places, they seldom abstain from sex with the locals. The vikings especially had trading colonies all along the Don, the Volga, and around the Black Sea. (That is what "Russia" means, after all.) Eventually their descendants became the core of the Byzantine army. |
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sir alcal New User

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Posted: Sat 06 Sep 2008 20:31 Post subject: Re: Frequency Of Fair Eyes In Europe |
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| fwsweet wrote: | | sir alcal wrote: | | Some areas as Turkey and Algeria have the Frequency of fair eyes of Northen Italy. Can we take such map seriously? |
Why not? The map is talking about a small fraction of the population. Regarding Algeria, check out French colonialism. Regarding Greece and Turkey, read up on the Varangians. When armies conquer and occupy places, they seldom abstain from sex with the locals. The vikings especially had trading colonies all along the Don, the Volga, and around the Black Sea. (That is what "Russia" means, after all.) Eventually their descendants became the core of the Byzantine army. |
Good point, but for personal experience(i live in Italy and i see turkish and algerian immigrants everyday), i hardly believe they have the same frequency of fair eyes. It's like comparing english and mexicans. |
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