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mixedmom
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femmedecouleur
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The link didn't work for me--it just brought me to the main page.
Would you happen to have another link?
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mixedmom
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DucorpsToo
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I saw the clip. I don't know whether it had come from a movie or not. But the web page hints as though this is a skit. If so, I think that it would actually make great fodder for conversation and bring out the "amateur psychologist" in a lot of us 
| Quote: | | Do you think that the ex-husband is being disrespectful here? |
Disrespectful... to whom?. If this is a stand-alone skit, we would have no idea to the circumstances of the divorce or past behaviors of either party..meaning that there is much room for lots of speculation. So just taking the skit on face value with no prior knowledge of past events, I think that the guy handled himself quite well during the confrontation with the ex-wife; and for that specific moment he was not disrespecting her. He actually kept a level head, dealt well with the ad hominems and spoke quite civilly compared to the ex and her friends. The ex-wife's two friends, however, should have kept their mouths shut as their behavior appeared quite juvenile.
In my opinion after a divorce, the guy and the ex can go their separate ways and date whoever they (expletive) well please, regardless of race. After all, "all's fair in love and war". Although this skit was to address the interracial dating..I personally think that this issue is quite trite compared to another issue that didn't seem to be addressed in this video. That is, the effect of bringing a stream of "significant others" (irrespective of race) around minor children who are not a spouse. The kids can get attached to the adult's new S.O., and if a breakup occurs, the child is devastated...assuming that said child liked the S.O. to begin with. Even though I do not agree with quite a bit of Dr. Laura's right-wing diatribe, I do have to concur with her when she states that after a divorce the parent's duty is to tend to minor child and not to date until the child reaches adulthood. Listening to a lot of her callers sure do reinforce that view...and it's quite a bit of drama! (I also belong to a message board for rollerskaters which has a lot of teen members. Some, who are from divorced homes, have discussed the parent's girl/boyfriend and how they don't get along..etc. which also reinforces my view)
Anyhow, I'll just say that ,no, the guy wasn't disresepctful to the ex during the confrontation; however it might not be in the best interest of the child for him to be exposing her to his current beau for my reasons stated above. In other words, it might not be respectful to the child.
Oh well, that was my Freudian analysis for today. I'm a chemist by trade and not a psychologist 
Perhaps you guys have a better take on this one. Interesting topic, MixedMom 
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femmedecouleur
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Thanks.
I couldn't watch the whole thing; too many horrid stereotypes.  |
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mixedmom
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This is an interesting clip for sure. A few thoughts emerged while I watched it.
The black women in the room are all absolutely gorgeous. It's hard to imagine that any of them would have a problem finding a date with whomever they wanted. I've been noticing that in many movies with black woman oriented storylines, at some point in the movie, the black women get together and end up ganging up on a black man in the story. The "friends" feel entitled to express their opinions to the boyfriend/husband/SO about their (male) role in their relationship with their (female) friend. I saw this happen in the movie, Guess Who with Bernie Mac. I wonder if this is reality being portrayed or if this is merely a stereotype of African-American culture. The type of black female characters being portrayed would be the first ones to DEMAND that you "MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS!!!" but somehow feel entitled to address a grievance that was shared to them by their girlfriend to their girlfriend's husband/boyfriend/SO. I can't think of any movies where I've seen white women doing this.
The ex-wife brings up a stereotype that white women are push overs which would explain why only a weak black man would want to be with a white woman. There's mention of one of the black women admitting that she's with a white man but then another friend quickly rationalizes that the black woman who's dating the white man is only doing so because there aren't any black men left for black women. What does this say about her relationship if she sees her current beau as a "second choice" selection? |
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DucorpsToo
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....The ex-wife brings up a stereotype that white women are push overs which would explain why only a weak black man would want to be with a white woman.... |
I guess that the above stereotype also implicitly states that Black women are very assertive, direct, take-charge...etc. This almost reminds me of instances where some guys who are, ...er, a little on the chauvanistic side use a slightly altered version of the above stereotype. In this case they might claim that American women in general are "too domineering",aggressive..etc and is used as justification to seek a mail-order bride who is stereotyped as "compliant", "meek", "subordinate"..etc. |
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gingerjenn
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interesting clip...he definitely put her in quite mode.
I personally think her gal-friends a.k.a. girlfriends, (((ummm>>>clearing>>>>>> my throat...! )))))))
got her going with an attitude that was not needed, in the first place. It to me should of demonstrated the need of acting like a lady first and demonstrating the need of correcting thought before speaking, its apparent she thought to late in the game when the father of her child spoke...with some common middle-ground-sense.
Sometimes...
We as women need to be more secure with ourselves...whether the appearance of another women, (white or black) should never take an higher revenue in comparing how we view ourselves. I think if she wanted him back she could have him...if you listen closely he indicated the need of a quiet home...with allot of other openings (words) that to me could of been a future not so far away--reconcile...but, her over the top attitude drove him away again, with the conviction, of-damn I'm right! The unchanged pattern...of her attitude, and the non-help of her friends, demonstrated and suggest that..this will cause her quite frankly, many relationships to go a-stray. Sometimes as women we tend to be our own worst enemy.
I have a pondering ....????
Question...why are these women all sittin' at her home..where are their men???
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