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mymulatto
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jul 2006 02:12    Post subject: Passing for black? Reply with quote

Lighter skinned so call blacks passing for black africans.these people are real mulatto/multiracial people.
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jul 2006 02:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

humans passing for multiracial
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jul 2006 02:28    Post subject: Passing for black? Reply with quote

Salsassin wrote:
humans passing for multiracial


why do lighter skinned blacks have to pass as blacks in the us ?any other country they would be seen as mixedrace/mulatto/coloureds,we should have something like these coloureds in cap verden and south africa.we can forum our own Union the MulattoPean Union.

the Coloureds
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Today people of mixed descent are an integral part of most populations throughout Africa, but because of the nature of their descent, they are not truly integrated into any of the other cultural groups. This is also the case in Namibia. One of the differences between the Coloureds and the Rehoboth Basters is the fact that the Basters identify very much with the Rehoboth Gebiet, whereas the Coloureds have never inhabited a specific part of the country, and were not allocated a ‘homeland’, as was the case with other non-white population groups during South African administration of the territory. As a result they now live almost everywhere in Namibia, particularly in the urban areas.

Namibia's Coloured community, numbering just over 50 000, has its origins in the Cape Province of South Africa, although many are descendants from local intermixing. The Coloureds have a strong Caucasian strain and for the most part maintain a Western culture and way of life. They speak Afrikaans as a home language, although their accent differs considerably from that of the Rehoboth Basters.

By and large Coloureds are well educated and practise a wide range of professions, including the civil service, education and especially the building trade. While a small group of Coloureds practise stock farming in the south of the country, most of them live in towns such as Windhoek, Keetmanshoop, Lüderitz, Kalkveld and Karasburg. By and large the Coloureds are well educated and practise a wide range of professions such as the civil service, education and especially the building trade. A small number make a living as stock-farmers and a fairly large community lives in Walvis Bay, where they are fishermen or have their own businesses.
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jul 2006 03:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

The couloureds of Of Africa were divided by an exterior force. In Latin America you see people of all types of looks defining themselves in many groups they fit comfortable in. And yes, even some people of mixed ancestry identifying as Black. The difference is there is no imposition.
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jul 2006 05:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the Interracial Voice Point - CounterPoint archives:

If it's valid to say that a person of mixed-race is "passing" for white, is it equally valid to say that individual is "passing" for black?

Passing for black? Part 1
(30 responses, 03-13-96 to 11-04-96)

Passing for black? Part 2
(30 responses, 11-05-96 to 07-22-97)

Passing for black? Part 3
(40 responses, 07-24-97 to 05-17-99)

Passing for black? Part 4
(40 responses, 10-30-99 to 07-07-00)

Passing for black? Part 5
(96 responses, updated 10-16-03)
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jul 2006 14:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salsassin wrote:
The couloureds of Of Africa were divided by an exterior force. In Latin America you see people of all types of looks defining themselves in many groups they fit comfortable in. And yes, even some people of mixed ancestry identifying as Black. The difference is there is no imposition.


Exactly. It is one thing to define oneself and find acceptance within a group and another to impose an identity from the outside based on appearance. What right do mulattos have to "claim" people who identify as Black, or say they aren't who they believe they are?

If you go back far enough most humans are multiracial in the sense we use it today. So what are the relevant differences? To me they are national, ethnic and cultural identities - some are racialized, some are not.
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jul 2006 22:56    Post subject: Identity Reply with quote

sagascend wrote:
Salsassin wrote:
The couloureds of Of Africa were divided by an exterior force. In Latin America you see people of all types of looks defining themselves in many groups they fit comfortable in. And yes, even some people of mixed ancestry identifying as Black. The difference is there is no imposition.


Exactly. It is one thing to define oneself and find acceptance within a group and another to impose an identity from the outside based on appearance. What right do mulattos have to "claim" people who identify as Black, or say they aren't who they believe they are?


Why one has to select an identity in the first place?

In the case of Latinos, for instance, many are tri-racial. Why they has to choose Black and turn the back to White and Indian, or White, or Indian and forget about their other roots? Why can't they chose all those identities at once?

After all, what is an identity?

For me, it is nothing else that the genetical and cultural heritage of our parents. Nothing else. And our parents not necesarily belong to the same ethnic or racial group.

Omar
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Aug 2006 13:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of this is one more reason why bilogical race doesn't exist.
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