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chasbyrd Guru

Joined: 27 Nov 2004 {Posts: 389 } Location: NYC
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triguy Superuser

Joined: 27 Apr 2005 {Posts: 878 }
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Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2006 04:48 Post subject: Re: White Girl? Cousin Kim Is Passing. |
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What's wrong with Ms Parker's article on her giving up on hip hop because she felt it had become dominated by misogyny and obsessive materialism , dropping its past claims to activism and intelligence. Parker places her views in juxtaposition to her youth and her daughter's, wanting her child to be exposed to more positive influence. |
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Melani23 Suspended

Joined: 30 Aug 2005 {Posts: 1193 } Location: USA
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Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2006 13:17 Post subject: |
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I read the article and remember the previous one about her cousin (trying to tell Kim what's best for her is to choose Black only, etc)......
I don't blame her, as a parent she is right to restict what her child listens to, but she should stop trying to apologize and make excuses for current Hip-Hop music - its trash. Back in the day, artists like 'The Fresh Prince of Bel Aire', etc were smart, witty, political, etc without being mysogynistic, exploitive, and vile. Black voices or not - its denegrating trash. The HH music of today bears no resemblance to the former urban poets like Curtis Blow, Young MC, P.E., etc She does cite the 'good ole days', but still isn't firm enough in her reasonings to reject it outright.
She is trying too hard to 'keep it real' and 'be cool', 'relate' when she should (and is) be a responsible parent. No excuses or explanations needed. Be a parent! You do not have to explain yourself to an underage child. You don't make friends with a rabid dog (Hip Hop) - you put it down and are not sorry for doing so.
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sagascend Moderator-at-Large

Joined: 17 Jun 2006 {Posts: 2412 }
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Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2006 21:23 Post subject: |
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A distinction should be made between most "popular" hip hop and the musical artform itself. Anyone can use the artform to express his/herself, but what seems to pay the bills is hip hop that is extremely misogynist, materialistic and just plain silly (I challenge anyone to come up with a non-silly explanation for "Do Your Chain Hang Low?" ).
There are countless hip hop artists who put out conscious, positive music, and some even manage to make some loot. Some more current/popular ones include The Roots, Common, and Lupe Fiasco. I know I am forgetting people.
There is also gospel hip hop, which surely can be seen as a positive expression. Probably pretty lucrative business too. |
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DucorpsToo Mentor

Joined: 19 Jan 2006 {Posts: 223 } Location: Southern California
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I'll admit that yes, I do have a collection of uncensored hip-hop music on my computer hard drive. Speaking only for myself, I actually find a number of the melodys to be quite delightful...as long as it isn't blatant sampling from another song and is an original tune.
So what I usually do is seek the instrumental version of the particular selection in question, upload it onto my portable mp3 player and enjoy. Being that I can be quite the audiophile, I do revel in discerning the various rhythms that come into play as well as how some of the actual "intsruments" (probably from a synthesizer) are also used as a percussion tool as well.
Hence I find the actual "talking heads" (rap) to be quite a distractive nusiance to my enjoyment of the melody.  |
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