Posted: Wed 25 May 2005 16:46 Post subject: Re: Word Evolution
mixedmom wrote:
That's interesting about the PRs and the Mexicans. As you've pointed out Gemini072, the use of this word is evolving and slightly changing to mean different things to different groups. Are the PRs and Mexicans using this to refer to females as well as males? When I've heard it used by blacks, it seemed to be used to only refer to males. I don't listen to popular music nor do I keep up with a lot of celeb hubbub. I'm not familiar with J-Lo's controversy but at least you can give me credit for this, I know who she is!
I live in central Maryland between Washington DC and Baltimore. The teenagers here use the word "gay" (not queer) to mean that something or someone is lame. When I hear them say this word, it's pretty obvious that they're not talking about homosexuality. I brought this into the discussion to introduce another example of how words evolve. I'm sure that there are folks who remember back in their teenage days when the word "gay" meant happy.
The word "mulatto" has always meant a black/white mix. I read a book called "Incidents in the Life of a Slave Girl" by Harriet Ann Jacobs. This woman ran away from her master and the poster that her master put out for her capture included a description of her as a mulatto girl of light brown complexion. HA Jacobs was not the child of a white person and a black person, she was the child of two mixed parents and yet was still described as mulatto by her white master. Here's an excerpt from this book:
"$300 REWARD! Ran away from the subscriber, an intelligent, bright, mulatto girl, named Linda, 21 years age. Five feet four inches high. Dark eyes, and black hair inclined to curl; but it can be made straight. Has a decayed spot on a front tooth. She can read and write, and in all probability will try to get to the Free States. All persons are forbidden, under penalty of the law, to harbor or employ said slave. $150 will be given to whoever takes her in the state, and $300 if taken out of the state and delivered to me, or lodged in jail.
It seems that the term mulatto evolved to include light skinned (tan, beige, light yellow etc.) people of black-white admixture in addition to first generation mixies.
Yes Mixedmom, it a guy thing, even though I have girls used it to guys in a joking way. And a 1/2white 1/2pr guy I know, who ahhh became intimate with PRlatina while in the throws of passion she used the word 'Nigga' that was kinda funny when he told me...
Yeah the J-Lo thing was kinda big, it was funny because the song was hot.
Ok, I have an uncle how live in a suburb of Baltimore a doctor in DC, I like it down there.
I have to look into that, its interesting, I guess those kids don't have much of a problem with homosexuality, to use it like that in a new way. When I first began hearing the term Queer used (that actually it was previously used to me Strange or Odd) I was expecting to see someone who was gay.
Yes your right, the dictionary has 2 meanings, the 1st is the child of 1 white 1 black(negro) the 2nd is anyone of white and black ancestry/mixture
In America the French occupied territory had a wider usage of terms when it came to 'measuring degrees' nice sounding words too.
I trying to think, are there any other new usage of words?
Something I realized about America is that a lot of what went on concerning slavery, race, and just the whole new world occupation, is steeped in religious beliefs. the term White, Negro, the Civil War...
Joined: 27 Nov 2004 {Posts: 46 } Location: Soon to be in Europe
Posted: Wed 25 May 2005 16:47 Post subject:
Hair is important in that kinky hair locates "blackness" in a sort of shorthand sense (meaning quick eyeballing). The reason for this is the existence of nearly 1,000,000,000 South Asians (Indians of Aryan and Dravidian extraction), hundreds of millions of Middle Easterners and North Africans, and hundreds of millions of self-identified Latinos who are not classed as "blacks". Nearly all of these persons have skin tones which heavily overlap and dovetail with those of "blacks". And nearly none have the sort of kinkiness in hair texture which usually mark off "blacks". Even "black" women can be identified as such, since the straightening jobs they get on their hair often leave their kinky temples and neck napes as dead givaways (Vanessa Williams, her light-brown skin tone notwithstanding, is such an example). I taught "black" students for a period of over 25 years. For the most part, only a small minority had non-kinky hair (less than 10%).
To give an eyeballing example for everyday reference, the popular actor Will Smith has a skin tone similar to nearly that of 2,000,000,000 people. His facial features likewise dovetail significantly with the "non-black" peoples I enumerate above. The only way a North American "racial" obsessive (this, to me, describes most of the U.S. Anglo population, whether "black" or "white") can quickly eyeball Smith as "black" is hair texture. In Smith's case, the texture of his hair is similar to mine, perhaps a mite less straight. However, it is sufficiently "black" to merit eyeball consideration as such.
Since hair is such an important barometer of "blackness" and "blackness" (presence or absence) is the chief social dividing line in the U.S. (superceding even religion), we could well have a separate webpage devoted to issues of hair.
Hair is important in that kinky hair locates "blackness" in a sort of shorthand sense (meaning quick eyeballing). The reason for this is the existence of nearly 1,000,000,000 South Asians (Indians of Aryan and Dravidian extraction), hundreds of millions of Middle Easterners and North Africans, and hundreds of millions of self-identified Latinos who are not classed as "blacks". Nearly all of these persons have skin tones which heavily overlap and dovetail with those of "blacks". And nearly none have the sort of kinkiness in hair texture which usually mark off "blacks". Even "black" women can be identified as such, since the straightening jobs they get on their hair often leave their kinky temples and neck napes as dead givaways (Vanessa Williams, her light-brown skin tone notwithstanding, is such an example). I taught "black" students for a period of over 25 years. For the most part, only a small minority had non-kinky hair (less than 10%).
To give an eyeballing example for everyday reference, the popular actor Will Smith has a skin tone similar to nearly that of 2,000,000,000 people. His facial features likewise dovetail significantly with the "non-black" peoples I enumerate above. The only way a North American "racial" obsessive (this, to me, describes most of the U.S. Anglo population, whether "black" or "white") can quickly eyeball Smith as "black" is hair texture. In Smith's case, the texture of his hair is similar to mine, perhaps a mite less straight. However, it is sufficiently "black" to merit eyeball consideration as such.
Since hair is such an important barometer of "blackness" and "blackness" (presence or absence) is the chief social dividing line in the U.S. (superceding even religion), we could well have a separate webpage devoted to issues of hair.
Your right Javier, Hair texture now is more important that skin tone, dark complexions aren't an issue like it used to be, but hair texture is still a big deal. Probably more for women than men.
Hair is important in that kinky hair locates "blackness" in a sort of shorthand sense (meaning quick eyeballing). The reason for this is the existence of nearly 1,000,000,000 South Asians (Indians of Aryan and Dravidian extraction), hundreds of millions of Middle Easterners and North Africans, and hundreds of millions of self-identified Latinos who are not classed as "blacks". Nearly all of these persons have skin tones which heavily overlap and dovetail with those of "blacks". And nearly none have the sort of kinkiness in hair texture which usually mark off "blacks". Even "black" women can be identified as such, since the straightening jobs they get on their hair often leave their kinky temples and neck napes as dead givaways (Vanessa Williams, her light-brown skin tone notwithstanding, is such an example). I taught "black" students for a period of over 25 years. For the most part, only a small minority had non-kinky hair (less than 10%).
To give an eyeballing example for everyday reference, the popular actor Will Smith has a skin tone similar to nearly that of 2,000,000,000 people. His facial features likewise dovetail significantly with the "non-black" peoples I enumerate above. The only way a North American "racial" obsessive (this, to me, describes most of the U.S. Anglo population, whether "black" or "white") can quickly eyeball Smith as "black" is hair texture. In Smith's case, the texture of his hair is similar to mine, perhaps a mite less straight. However, it is sufficiently "black" to merit eyeball consideration as such.
Since hair is such an important barometer of "blackness" and "blackness" (presence or absence) is the chief social dividing line in the U.S. (superceding even religion), we could well have a separate webpage devoted to issues of hair.
This is a good read Javier! Thanks.
Last year, I read the Magic Treehouse series with my son. At the back of each book, there's a picture of the author, Mary Pope Osborne:
Here she is with her husband
This white woman has hair that is much curlier than either of my children or even mine! I wonder how kinky/frizzy haired white people factor into this issue because you're absolutely right Javier, kinky hair is a barometer of blackness. Because of this, I've wondered if this woman is part black but I realize that this type of hair is also found among whites, even if it's not a common (white) characteristic.
Hair is important in that kinky hair locates "blackness" in a sort of shorthand sense (meaning quick eyeballing). The reason for this is the existence of nearly 1,000,000,000 South Asians (Indians of Aryan and Dravidian extraction), hundreds of millions of Middle Easterners and North Africans, and hundreds of millions of self-identified Latinos who are not classed as "blacks". Nearly all of these persons have skin tones which heavily overlap and dovetail with those of "blacks". And nearly none have the sort of kinkiness in hair texture which usually mark off "blacks". Even "black" women can be identified as such, since the straightening jobs they get on their hair often leave their kinky temples and neck napes as dead givaways (Vanessa Williams, her light-brown skin tone notwithstanding, is such an example). I taught "black" students for a period of over 25 years. For the most part, only a small minority had non-kinky hair (less than 10%).
To give an eyeballing example for everyday reference, the popular actor Will Smith has a skin tone similar to nearly that of 2,000,000,000 people. His facial features likewise dovetail significantly with the "non-black" peoples I enumerate above. The only way a North American "racial" obsessive (this, to me, describes most of the U.S. Anglo population, whether "black" or "white") can quickly eyeball Smith as "black" is hair texture. In Smith's case, the texture of his hair is similar to mine, perhaps a mite less straight. However, it is sufficiently "black" to merit eyeball consideration as such.
Since hair is such an important barometer of "blackness" and "blackness" (presence or absence) is the chief social dividing line in the U.S. (superceding even religion), we could well have a separate webpage devoted to issues of hair.
This is a good read Javier! Thanks.
Last year, I read the Magic Treehouse series with my son. At the back of each book, there's a picture of the author, Mary Pope Osborne:
Here she is with her husband
This white woman has hair that is much curlier than either of my children or even mine! I wonder how kinky/frizzy haired white people factor into this issue because you're absolutely right Javier, kinky hair is a barometer of blackness. Because of this, I've wondered if this woman is part black but I realize that this type of hair is also found among whites, even if it's not a common (white) characteristic.
Actually Mixmom, it is a common ethnic feature among whites, Many people do not wear their hair natural, most women do perm or straighten their hair.
Bob Ross, one of the most calming and my favorite painter to watch is a Jewish American and he wore his hair natural
An Irish-American woman I worked with in a conversation about ethnicity said that she has very thick coarse hair and she uses a straightening comb on it, and even after that it's easy to see who almost kinky her hair is.
If you ever watch movies or tv shows from the 70's you will see a big difference in hair textures compared to now, almost no one wears their hair natural. You'll see a lot of afro type do's on 'white people' thick curly hair limp hair
Posted: Wed 25 May 2005 18:41 Post subject: Re: White Afros
mixedmom wrote:
Geez Gemini072,
I thought all of those 70's white 'fros were just bad perm jobs!
lol, I worked at City Hall for a while and they still got em. My mother bought an afro wig in the 70's her hair won't go up like that without drying it beyond help
Joined: 27 Nov 2004 {Posts: 46 } Location: Soon to be in Europe
Posted: Wed 25 May 2005 19:11 Post subject:
Javier To mixedmom..... I have always enjoyed your posts as well. They are thoughtful, reasoned, non-combative and civil.
Well, you are absolutely right about my "hair" post in that there are hosts of exceptions with regard to people who are "white" (and other groups, too!). Many, many instances abound in which "white" hair dovetails with mulatto hair and even "black" hair. When I worked in the airline business we had a large cross-section of people. Since I have a kind of hair texture common in the Dominican Republic (frizzy curls but wavy when brushed out), I overlaped some "whites" with whom I worked, with regard to hair. As I am sure that you do as well, probably more so than I do.
This is why (and I know Frank will get a chuckle out of this) sociology and history definitions can take on the form of legal documents--there being so many exceptions and anomalies associated with pronouncements and definitions. If one were to look at the definition of "social institutions" most sociology texts would have a sentence definition nearly paragraph-length.
You and Tyrone were very gracious in your responses to my post (since I am aware that each of you can cite, personally, lots of instances in your own lives to contradict some of what I said).
What I am really concerned with is this business of automatic eyeballing of persons identified as "black". I am certain that the ease with which individuals can be eyeballed as "black" constitutes just one more building block of the (evil) structure of U.S. "race" relations.
In other words, I am not at all of the opinion that this sort of eyeballability (Hey! I just coined a new word) is such a good thing after all.
"Since hair is such an important barometer of "blackness" and "blackness" (presence or absence) is the chief social dividing line in the U.S. (superceding even religion), we could well have a separate webpage devoted to issues of hair."
Isn't that the truth Javier...
A separate page could most certainly be devoted to the hair issue.
Just today I happend to meet a very nice young woman from Brazil while in a park. She was making over my son and commenting on his curly hair and blue eyes. Saying what a real boy, he'll be a heartbreaker etc... She worked as a maid but was trying to get into the local university. We had a really nice conversation, then she gave me her card and offered to babysit in the future if I needed it. Real sweet girl. Very friendly.
She had medium length frizzy light-brown hair, hazel/greyish eyes and light-brown skin. She had a stereotypical "mulatta" look I guess you could say.
What's weird is, before she even opened her mouth, I sensed (correctly) she was not American even though she looked like your typical biracial/multi-generationaly mixed i.e. light-skinned black woman. I knew she was from Brazil before she even opened her mouth. Somehow, I think a persons deamenor can actually be infuenced by culture.
Is it on a subconscious level? I don't know.
Maybe that's why some people who in America would be one-dropped, are often viewed through a cultural lense instead of a racial one at times.
She asked me where I was from too sensing (correctly) that I was definitely not from Ohio.
I think we both knew we we'rent from the area because of our pleasent and open demeanors.
There is great tension "amongst the races" here, thus many black/black-identified folks appear cold and have hardend facial expressions.
Anyway, it was just really nice to be in the company of another pleasent and nice woman of color.
It's funny, but at that moment, I felt more of a "sisterhood" with that Brazilian girl, who I'm pretty sure (although I may be wrong) did not consider herself black at all, than I do with most black women here in this City.
Most of my friends & associates here in Cincinnati are white with the exception of one black girl at my husbands job, one black guy who used to be our neighbor, and another interracially married black woman I know. Simply, because they are sweet people, and they care about me and my family and have never once made me feel like I've had to prove anything "race" wise.
They've never given off those "you think you white", "she think she cute", etc... vibes. Never.
It's weird, but sometimes white people have more of an expanded and non stereotypical view of "blackness" or "coloredness", than some black people.
O.K. back to the hair topic.
As we all know, there are "black" and "white" identified Americans with what most would probably consider "biracial" hair.
What's weird is, before she even opened her mouth, I sensed (correctly) she was not American even though she looked like your typical biracial/multi-generationaly mixed i.e. light-skinned black woman. I knew she was from Brazil before she even opened her mouth. Somehow, I think a persons deamenor can actually be infuenced by culture.
Is it on a subconscious level? I don't know.
It's funny, but at that moment, I felt more of a "sisterhood" with that Brazilian girl, who I'm pretty sure (although I may be wrong) did not consider herself black at all, than I do with most black women here in this City.
It's weird, but sometimes white people have more of an expanded and non stereotypical view of "blackness" or "coloredness", than some black people.
Wow Thandies daughter looks just like her, she looks like her husband would be the same color with the same features...
I know what you mean, but I think that has to be a more person to person observation. Unless there is a difference in expectations according to gender. I started working in a different dept and I got bombarded by the white guys with "Hey cool breeze(is that 60's or 70's), What UP Dog? and looks of confusion when my cd's were of Accoustic Alchemy, Norah Jones, Seal and no rap CD's, when I play music on the radio real low one guy automatically begins to do the very much black inspired dances (or at least tries) and it doesn't matter what I'm playing (these guys are in their 40's and 50's) I don't get upset, I laugh, and play back with them, but every once in a while it bothers me. And I can recount story after story from one job to the next. When I worked at the library everything I wore had some kind of cultural/spiritual meaning behind it... (wearing a beret)"Can you explain the meaning? what is the cultural roots behind it?" My mouth dropped open. Now interestingly the Italians that work here, are non stereotyping of me, One guy who is hard core Jazz lover took to me real quickly because of my Jazz cd's, non of them/Italian (3 guys 1 lady) have every tried to pigeon hold me... The older Black guys are very 'respectful' of me, the only ones that call me Sir, even though they don't have to...
I really do agree and can relate with you about the cultural influences on a persons mannerisms. My family (South Carolina well to do), most people think we are from the islands or something, my family(extended) still have very strong Southern manners & hospitalities..A lot of Indian, Latin, Italian people are drawn to me in those ways
Last edited by gemini072 on Thu 26 May 2005 15:50; edited 1 time in total
"I know what you mean, but I think that has to be a more person to person observation."
This is true Ty. We must all remind ourselves of this. Despite previous incidents - whether they be bad or good - with members of certain groups, we should try to remember that people are individuals.
I'm glad there are some normal people you're working with. Those who are not into ignorant "playful" racial stereotyping. What you've described would bother me too after a while.
I can see Indian, Mediterranean and Latin people being drawn to you. You don't fit the stereotype many have of Afro-American males, are articulate, family oriented, plus judging from your photo, you look like some members of those various groups.
You're right about the uncanny resemblance between Thandie and her eldest daughter.
Joined: 27 Nov 2004 {Posts: 46 } Location: Soon to be in Europe
Posted: Thu 26 May 2005 15:34 Post subject:
All of you on this list are aware that the mulatto phenotype is nearly wholly judged, in the U.S., to be under the "black" umbrella. This is exponentially applied to females. Some mulatto phenotypes as well-known "blacks"
* The Gumbel brothers, Bryant and Greg (born to probable mulatto parents?)
* Ron Glass (unsure of his background) * Halle Berry (born to black and white parents)
* Jasmine Guy (born to black and white parents) * Lisa Bonet (born to black and white parents)
* Rae Dawn Chong (born to black and Asian parents)
* Mario Van Peebles (born to black and white parents)
* Harry Belafonte (born to probable mulatto parents)
* Bob Marley (born to black and white parents)
* Beyonce (did I spell that right, Tyrone?--unsure of background) * Prince (unsure of his background)
Those who are up on this sort of thing could, no doubt, greatly expand this list.
The point, here, is that the U.S. population is conditioned to look at these mulatto phenotypes as "black". Period. Thus, creating a space in U.S. society for mulattoes as an entity separate from "blacks" has its challenges.
As A.D. has pointed out, there is a mulatto escape-hatch for Latinos.
Actresses Rosie Perez, Lauren Velez, and baseballer Alex Rodriguez, together with many others, all possess mulatto phenotypes liable to being looked at, by U.S. Anglo eyes, as "black". However, as Felicia has hinted at, there is a subtle process of shading the eyeballing away from labeling as "black" when the mulatto's surname is Spanish and/or Spanish-accented English is used and/or Spanish is used.
Anglo mulattos do not have the escape hatch Latinos do--hence the challenge.
The astonishing thing about the U.S. is that its system of "racism", "racial" classification and "racial" etiquette has succeeded in nearly completely nullifying any unifying possibilities of "race" mixture in this country. The mulatto phenotype's appropriation by the "black" group (which, as Frank has indicated, is heavily disposed toward endogamy) is an integral part of the U.S. "racial" system.
When the mulatto groups and sites weigh in, their paramount mission (after the one of creating a welcome space for mulattoes) should be to help break up this (evil) U.S. "racial" system--which is geared to foster a feeling of common humanity ONLY among persons of the same "race".
It can make one wonder just what the U.S. nationality really is.
All of you on this list are aware that the mulatto phenotype is nearly wholly judged, in the U.S., to be under the "black" umbrella. This is exponentially applied to females. Some mulatto phenotypes as well-known "blacks"
* The Gumbel brothers, Bryant and Greg (born to probable mulatto parents?)
* Ron Glass (unsure of his background) * Halle Berry (born to black and white parents)
* Jasmine Guy (born to black and white parents) * Lisa Bonet (born to black and white parents)
* Rae Dawn Chong (born to black and Asian parents)
* Mario Van Peebles (born to black and white parents)
* Harry Belafonte (born to probable mulatto parents)
* Bob Marley (born to black and white parents)
* Beyonce (did I spell that right, Tyrone?--unsure of background) * Prince (unsure of his background)
When the mulatto groups and sites weigh in, their paramount mission (after the one of creating a welcome space for mulattoes) should be to help break up this (evil) U.S. "racial" system--which is geared to foster a feeling of common humanity ONLY among persons of the same "race".
It can make one wonder just what the U.S. nationality really is.
Yes sir, you spelled it right, Beyonces mother is biracial, Prince is mixed generationally
Your right, saddly I remember a lot of breaking down of racial barriers and only seeing each other as American during the 911 tragedy, but that also came at the cost of racially demonizing Arabs and anyone that might look Arab:Indians,Blacks,Mixed,Latinos
Even if it is derived from mule, so what? Too much time has passed from the word’s supposed origins to today when many people use mulatto to describe themselves racially, ethnically and/or culturally. The word tends to "offend" those "blacks" that oppose a separate mixed identity more than it "offends"
I know. The word "thumb" originally meant "Tumor finger" - to the Anglo Saxons that is how it looked - like a tumor. That doesn't mean that this is what I am calling it now
Joined: 04 May 2005 {Posts: 2021 } Location: santiago, chile
Posted: Mon 13 Jun 2005 00:56 Post subject: Re: The Word Mulatto
mixedmom wrote:
`Ninety-five percent of the time, people see me as White and treat me as White Even after they know my true background, they nevertheless insist that l am White.' By Erin Bannister...
My mother is White. My father is Black. But I have never been clear about what I am. I used to define myself as multiracial, an 11-letter, 4-syllable, politically correct, trendy word. But when I was in ninth grade, my French teacher asked: Who isn't multiracial?
When I look in the mirror, I see a White person who looks as if she has a tan--even in the winter--and whose hair may be dark, but not always curly. I have no prominent African-American features. And although I am sometimes mistaken for someone of Hispanic origin, people generally see me as White. I'm always reminded of how pale my skin is when White people casually come out with racial slurs in front of me.
I learned that mulatto originated from the Spanish word for mule, the ungainly, stubborn and sterile offspring of a donkey and a horse. By the end of twelfth grade, I had adopted this term.
My parents each had such different reactions on learning I had chosen to describe myself as mulatto. ("Which one of you is the donkey?" I joked.) My mother objected on the grounds that mulatto had slavery connotations, and she said she hoped that I could find a more positive word to describe my racial identity. My father just laughed. Not that he has accepted my decision to embrace this term any more than my mother. He says he believes I am using it to minimize my African-American heritage--in other words, that I prefer to be White rather than Black. And maybe he is right. Isn't that choice mine to make?
I am not the only one in my father's family who has had problems with racial identity. My African-American grandfather had very light, seemingly White skin. I am told that people would mistake him for White but then discover he was Black when he introduced his family. Perhaps this is why it's so distressing for my father to have me identify myself as mulatto. He's baffled when people consider me White and embarrassed when they don't realize that he and I are related.
I can't escape my Whiteness. Ninety-five percent of the time, people see me as White and treat me as White.
Dear Lady,
I believe I understand how you feel. But I would not worry much about it. With all due respect I will say it to you. You are a BEAUTIFUL woman, your children are beautiful, and you enjoy a nice family and the love of your loved ones. What else one needs to be happy?
I am Latin American, and I find interesting the problems of identity that people of the United States have. First. Why one should define himself in racial terms? Why it is so important? After all we are human beings first.
We Latinos don't accept that for us. Because our race, whatever it is, is our personal business. Nothing to declare to the census or to the people of the street. That's why we refuse to be classified.
I remember one time when our the census included a "racial" question on it to determine how many ethnic Native Americans lived in our country. The result was funny. As if every Chilean were comploted on it, all people declared themselves "ethnic Native", which of course is not true. It was a way to show our solidarity with real "ethnic Native". The government got so furious it never again ask those ethnic questions. We Latinos don't accept to be counted as sheeps. We are people: humans beings first and above all.
On the other hand, culture is important. The heritage of all your ancestors together is what really matters. And if one exists in this world is because of LOVE. We should never forget that simple fact.
The term Mulatto comes from Spanish, indeed. It has an innoble origin, like mestizo, sambo, gringo, indio, negro or all racial terms that were used in Spanish in the past. Today those terms are not taken very seriously because we don't take race very seriously either.
In Latino countries people is what it looks, regardless of the ancestry. And every single apparience has a joke associated with it. Nobody is free. If one is blondy or black or asian or whatever, there will always people that will make jokes about us. That's the way we are. We laugh about whites appariences, indian apparience, black apparience, etc. etc. People don't take too seriously what's outside because what really matter is what is inside us.
Besides, the term Mulata (female of Mulatto in Spanish and Portuguese) is usually asociated to Brazilian and Cuban women, the ones that are considered the most beautiful women of Latin America. The term Mulata is not considered offensive, and got certain respect to the point some women of other ethnic background sometimes claim to be Mulatas to call the attention.
Mulatas are usually taller and have better bodies that average Latinas. They have the best of the races of this planet. Why wouldn't be us, Latinos, proud of our Mulatas? Not forgetting, of course, that other women of Latin America are also very pretty. We don't hide we are proud our women; all of them.
On the other side, that term does not mean an independent identity. Peoples of the Americas usually share the heritage and culture with different, so called, races. We are a single people with diverse appariences. Why Americans can't be the same?
I just hope there will be a time when United States wake up at the racial situation it has and changes the attitude. I hope Americans one day will practise what they preach: All men(and women) were created equal.
Besides, the term Mulata (female of Mulatto in Spanish and Portuguese) is usually asociated to Brazilian and Cuban women, the ones that are considered the most beautiful women of Latin America. The term Mulata is not considered offensive, and got certain respect to the point some women of other ethnic background sometimes claim to be Mulatas to call the attention.
In Puerto Rico too - the mulata is considered to be beautiful - Ever since I lived there, I have liked the term mulata!
I believe I understand how you feel. But I would not worry much about it. With all due respect I will say it to you. You are a BEAUTIFUL woman, your children are beautiful, and you enjoy a nice family and the love of your loved ones. What else one needs to be happy?
Thanks so much!
About the census in Chile, there was a lot of support in the general population to discourage the race question. There are too many people here in the United States who think that collecting race information is important.