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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jun 2007 17:38    Post subject: Do white guys like black women? Reply with quote

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=57337

I found this site while searching for something else. It's a messageboard where the topic was raised and discussed about whether white men are attracted to black women. Some of the candid comments are interesting. Here's just a taste:

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1128685&postcount=11
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Different people have their own special sets of preferences in other people. They can be, and usually are, influenced by the culture they grow up in and the culture they ultimately identify with.

I'm not aware of White men having a tendency to be disinterested in Black women as a rule. Some people may only express interested in members of their own race, but most likely because we instinctively "stick to our kind". Of course, there are exceptions to the rule, and I'm sure there is a sizeable number of White men who would most certainly go out with a Black woman.


http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1128751&postcount=26
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I can't speak for anyone else, but I can tell you that for me (I'm a white male.) it's not the case. The reason I'm not interested in black women (generally, though there are a few exceptions) is not because I think they won't be interested in me. It's what that second poster guy said. I'm just not intrigued by the archetypal black woman phenotype. I generally don't like the facial features (although at my old high school there were a few black girls with very feminine and beautiful faces). Also the body type I don't really like. The big booties that stand out horizontally like a diving board. Not for me. However, put a pretty face on an ectomorphic but elegant body and I'm set. I'm still not sure I would date one, however. You could say I'm a bit apprehensive of the black vagina.

So I basically don't prefer black women because I don't find them physically attractive. Not because I think they won't like me.

I must say, however a phenotype I'm developing a penchant for is of the Asian variety. Very feminine, pale skin, black hair.


http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1148509&postcount=61
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To the topic, i wouldn't go for a black woman. Maybe a mix but not pure black...
Forget about Beyonce - look like crap, same goes for Jennifer Lopez and Halle Berry...

Can't explain why i wouldn't go for a black girl... It just feel naturally wrong to me.


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Very rarely do I find a black woman attractive. The current trend for black women to have straight hair helps some, since I like long hair on a woman.

Even if I found a black woman attractive, I don't think I'd want to ever marry a black woman and have kids. The kids would look nothing like me. You see these white women with their black kids and you really would never know she was the mother, or if maybe the kids were adopted.

PS I don't care whether or not a black chick would want to marry me. A black person can have kids with any race and the kids will look like them, so no problem on their side.


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Isn't the definition of what we find attractive significantly influenced by our culture (familiarity) and the media?

Thus it is not racist to say you don't find a particular group with certain identifying physical characteristics unattractice any more than to find those same 'alien' traits attractive demonstrates a 'fetish'.

Consider the media representation of black women and then ask yourself why this representation may have a negative or positive impact on a viewing white male audience.

Consider the media representation of Asian women...(worded as above)

Consider the media representation of white women .....(worded as above)

There are blatantly different representations of each of these three groups in the media, when imagining one or the other group, an image will come to your mind. Consider what that image is telling you about that 'group'.

We know the media does NOT in fact portray a good representation of certain 'groups' BUT they do selectively choose HOW to represent them. What they choose is what we see.

Unless you grow up in a multi cultural society and can see the wrong being perpetuated in the media then you will use it as a reference tool to how other people you are unfamiliar with tend to behave.

Meanwhile, tastes are very much personal and can be influenced by many things, ultimately longevity and happiness in a relationship is only achievable if personalities are compatible, so whatever anyones preconceptions are re any colour, one day they could be knocked off their feet by a person they may otherwise not find physically attractive. BUT they become physically attractive to you when you come to love their personality.


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Black women are infamous for spending more time and needing to do more things to themselves before they go out than any other race.
I don't know what the hell she's talking about.

With that said, I can find black women very attractive, maybe even the most attractive in a raw primal sexual way. Watching black women dance and shake their asses is like watching a primitive courtship display that's designed specifically to give me wood.
Black girls operate by working you into a frenzy and inspiring rough dirty sex.
I guess some white guys just aren't tuned into picking up on that frequency. It really works on me, and it's not like any other kind of female, it hits you in the balls and makes your body want to move in a fucking motion while your brain is just totally disengaged going "wtf?"
Asians operate on the other end of the spectrum where it's more triggering your brain to methodically do things to them like they are objects, pull their panties down creepily like a pervert etc. There's no passionate signals from them, they just look like a fun toy you want to do stuff to, so they make you feel and act like a predatory sleaze no matter how consentual it is. I guess that's just what asian men have selected for.
They probably do it the least for me, but I can see that they might be the most beautiful in a picturesque sense.

White girls are in my eyes the most remarkable. They can't get you air humping against your will like a black girl but they can give you goosebumps and make you cry.
White girls are the only girls I can WANT to kiss and hug and be gay with.
They are the ultimate in triggering your emotions.
I love white girl singers who sing passionately like they're about to cry. Actually I have a fetish for crying white girls, which sounds really mysogynistic and dangerous, but it's more like I have a fetish for drying their tears and consoling them. I don't know why crying white girls look so incredibly beautiful.
Don't worry though because it's ruined if they are angry at me or scared of me and crying, that totally dislodges the goodness of it somehow, so I'm not going to go out making girls cry to get off.
Unless I did it covertly, through devious underhanded means... hmmm...

Anyway, I think not liking a particular race sexually is simply lacking the ability to appreciate their qualities, it's a shortcoming and not something to be proud of.

I understand that black women might (in a general sense with notable exceptions) be the least beautiful by "looking at a picture" standards, but that's not what they were made for. To appreciate them you need to interact with them, preferably on a dancefloor, that is their natural method of attracting males, doing a display of movement with a beat backdrop to attract a husband, and it really does grab you by the balls if they are good at it and you are a red blooded male.
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jun 2007 17:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, that last commenter seemed kind of weird to me.

I saw the topic and wanted to comment. I think something like who's attractive to who is very personal and can't be generalized. You like who you like.

But it reminded me of a married couple I used to know when I lived in Chicago, he has European ancestry, she is very dark-skinned. My husband and I were over at their house and they were telling us about how they met, and to hear it from him it was love a first sight. He said, "I had never seen anyone so beautiful." I thought it was very cool for any man to say that about his wife.

Last time we saw them they were happily married and had two little girls. We lost track of them over the years, I think they live in San Jose now.
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jun 2007 17:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bunch of weirdos.
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jun 2007 18:47    Post subject: Reply with quote



Mercy! Very Happy If she was only 20 pounds heavier. How can you not find her lovely.


Some of these posters assume all black American women have attitudes and black women (or what they consider black) the world over are like black American women. You know how it is, white women are diverse in temperament and culture throughout the world, but black women are the same wherever you go. .

In the social circles I move in, many non-black men (white included) literally lust after black women (from anywhere), and I don't mean light-skinned ones.
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jun 2007 19:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

kalima wrote:
Okay, that last commenter seemed kind of weird to me.

I saw the topic and wanted to comment. I think something like who's attractive to who is very personal and can't be generalized. You like who you like.

But it reminded me of a married couple I used to know when I lived in Chicago, he has European ancestry, she is very dark-skinned. My husband and I were over at their house and they were telling us about how they met, and to hear it from him it was love a first sight. He said, "I had never seen anyone so beautiful." I thought it was very cool for any man to say that about his wife.

Last time we saw them they were happily married and had two little girls. We lost track of them over the years, I think they live in San Jose now.


As I was reading the last poster's comments, it occurred to me that this poster probably sees himself as someone who is not racist and even open minded!

Creepy! Surprised
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jun 2007 19:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last poster has more than a few sexual problems.

The guy who made me laugh so much was the one that was afraid of the "black vagina." Does he imagine there are teeth down there? What a moron!
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jun 2007 20:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patience wrote:
The last poster has more than a few sexual problems.

The guy who made me laugh so much was the one that was afraid of the "black vagina." Does he imagine there are teeth down there? What a moron!


Perhaps he feels he doesn't "measure up" to the challenge. Surprised
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jun 2007 04:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

That last guy needs a counselor or something.

I also thought the comments were a little...odd for a science forum, until I saw the subtitle to the subforum: "cesspool: unintelligent community."

That summed it up for me Razz.

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jun 2007 10:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW.

Weird folks here...think they could use an extra yellow crayon, or maybe there some strings loose or missing marbles, Laughing !
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jun 2007 13:03    Post subject: Reply with quote


G-man said: In the social circles I move in, many non-black men (white included) literally lust after black women (from anywhere), and I don't mean light-skinned ones.

Sexually curious, it is natural for men and women from different racial groups to become sexually interested in each other meaning what would it be like to have sex with a person from this or that race. It is just like non-white men being fascinated with a white woman, or men being fascinated with Latinas, etc. Now go people and create mixed children.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jun 2007 18:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

mixedmom wrote:
kalima wrote:
Okay, that last commenter seemed kind of weird to me.

I saw the topic and wanted to comment. I think something like who's attractive to who is very personal and can't be generalized. You like who you like.

But it reminded me of a married couple I used to know when I lived in Chicago, he has European ancestry, she is very dark-skinned. My husband and I were over at their house and they were telling us about how they met, and to hear it from him it was love a first sight. He said, "I had never seen anyone so beautiful." I thought it was very cool for any man to say that about his wife.

Last time we saw them they were happily married and had two little girls. We lost track of them over the years, I think they live in San Jose now.


As I was reading the last poster's comments, it occurred to me that this poster probably sees himself as someone who is not racist and even open minded!

Creepy! Surprised


Funny. I found those last comments to be beutiful! I guess there aren't any poets on this site.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jun 2007 20:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

That last comment was from a creep.

Nice to know what some people think. Confused
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jun 2007 22:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

There ain't nothin' Asian women can do for me; even when I was in the x's and y's mode.

The young lady above, yup, tho' on 20 pounds or a little more and she can treat me worse than my wife does. Wink

Seriously, the neigborhood lady across the street counseled her daughter against dating White guys in College (15 years back). Something about them acting out their fantasies on Black women. I say some, she says it doesn't matter. See 'some' on the guy's post about Black women dancing to attract mates. New one on me I guess.
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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jul 2007 12:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Seriously, the neigborhood lady across the street counseled her daughter against dating White guys in College (15 years back). Something about them acting out their fantasies on Black women.


Wow, what an ignorant woman.SMH Hope that woman's daughter went off to college and judged ALL men, "white", "black", and other on the basis of the way they treated HER. And not based on some nightmare scenario cooked up in her mothers silly brain. This would be the intelligent thing to do.

If she didn't it was to her detriment. Adults make their own decisions and trust themselves enough to be good judges of character.

It's funny, some folks who are good at giving "advice" to others often haven't made the best relationships choices themselves in the past. I'm not accusing this neighbor because I don't know her, however I've seen more than enough evidence in society.

Mindlessly repeating what they've been told without investigating (by getting to know people who have not shared these horror experiences) if it's statistically true or not.

Plain ignorance and stupidity.

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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jul 2007 21:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

zsana wrote:
It's funny, some folks who are good at giving "advice" to others often haven't made the best relationships choices themselves in the past. I'm not accusing this neighbor because I don't know her, however I've seen more than enough evidence in society
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Isn't THAT the truth?? Now women across the globe know that there are certain types of predatory men to be avoided at the risk of heartache, wallet-ache and or/single parenthood. And wow, some men are more interested in sex than actually getting to know women as people? Knock me over with a feather. Rolling Eyes

What I hate is when one woman's bad choices or bad experiences with any man turns into a blanket indictment of half the species or men from a certain culture.

My personal experience is that White men seem very interested in Black women but don't often approach them. The knee-jerk reaction of racialists is to say "well it's because they don't find Black women as attractive" but that argument is nonsensical to me. Even looking at some of the most eyebrow-raising commentary here, some of the reasons themselves had nothing to do with physical attraction or attractiveness but other curious beliefs like "my kids won't look like me" or "they take too long to get dressed." There are likely other reasons like fear of social reprisals/stigma that can override any natural attraction between two people who are breaking a social taboo.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jul 2007 18:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew Waters wrote:

Something about them acting out their fantasies on Black women. I say some, she says it doesn't matter. See 'some' on the guy's post about Black women dancing to attract mates. New one on me I guess.


Maybe he thinks the African dances seen on some National Geographic special are all fertility dances. Surprised

On a serious note though, there is a group of people in West Africa whose men do a seductive dance to attract mates. They are called the Wadabi.
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2007 12:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

lois wrote:
It would be interesting to find out the location or region those white guys are from. Midwest they seem to have that attitude. However I have heard those comments about black women before. (Phenotype) Most white guys like a barbie doll type of woman. However until black males start showing other men that they respect their black female by making her feel valued and special opinions like that may never change.

Are you saying they don't? That is a very generalized thought don't you think?

Now just imagine if a Black man spoke of his black female in the same manner: ( I took out white girls and replaced it with black girls)

"Black girls are in my eyes the most remarkable. They can't get you air humping against your will like a white girl but they can give you goosebumps and make you cry.
Black girls are the only girls I can WANT to kiss and hug and be gay with.
They are the ultimate in triggering your emotions.
I love Black girl singers who sing passionately like they're about to cry".

Wow talk about self promoting what guy wouldn't want her, however that is not what you hear.

I don't like to see any woman no matter what her race is disrespected by any man.


I've heard enough black men/identified men say along the lines of what you've said. ("Only a black woman's cooking is so good I'll give her all my money") -This is the latest one I heard. But do they have to go out of the way and say that? To who? If a white man said that we would call him prejudiced.
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2007 12:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

In general, women and men equally do a lot of complaining about the other gender. I've heard black men saying uplifting things about black women but I've also heard and seen black men being EXTREMELY disrespectful to black women in particular. I've also heard A LOT of black women commenting both in private and in public venues about the disrespect that they encounter (disappointingly) from black men. This very topic is discussed at length in this book:



http://onedroprule.org/viewtopic.php?p=2992#2992

There's an essay/chapter called Piropos. Contributor Ayana Byrd writes about her encounters with strangers, black men in particular, on the busy Manhattan streets. She writes of the hissing and catcalls. A lot of these encounters are very demeaning. I was particularly disturbed when I read about more than one of her encounters where she tried to discourage these come-ons by telling these total strangers that she was 16. She was actually 23 so this lie was a believable one. Instead of running the other way, the man that she told she was 16 merely asked her when would her parents not be home so that he could call her! She said that this man looked to be in his thirties. She got similar responses when she'd lie about her age going as young as 12! This chapter in particular really opened my eyes to what a young attractive woman is likely to face if she's exposed to this street/sidewalk culture in the city. Apparently, there are some BOLD and aggressive men out there with no shame to their disgusting game.
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