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Garciaparra Experienced User

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Posted: Wed 04 Jul 2007 21:26 Post subject: Was Ovenga expelled from this Board? |
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http://www.biodiversityforum.com/sex-biased-gene-flow-in-americans-t7687.html
You bet. The OneDropRule is a Mulatto-Centric group that tries to prove everyone is Mulatto. No other people or combinations, nor historical experiences, are important to them at all. They are going to crash head on some day not only with Blacks and Whites, but also with Mestizos.
By the way, I was expelled because I found a hole in Frank and William theories.
Pinguin
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gemini072 Moderator

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Posted: Wed 04 Jul 2007 22:03 Post subject: 1.1 2.2 |
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1.1 Understand the Goal of the Group. — The site’s mission is to inform and to become informed about U.S. racialism, nothing more. The site does not support any political stance. It is not a support group for multiracial or biracial individuals. It neither supports nor opposes affirmative action. It neither supports nor opposes government demands for the collection of “racial” data. It does not strive to reduce “racism.” It does not strive to improve U.S. “race” relations. It is not a place to vent your grievances. Other sites have broader goals. Do not complain that the site’s mission is too narrow.
2.2 Do not engage in ad hominem. — If you disagree with someone, focus your comments on the content of their message, not their person. Do not attribute motives. Do not ridicule them. Do not engage in any form of ad hominem. |
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Salsassin Suspended

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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007 05:34 Post subject: |
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| I find it amusing how hypocritical Dragon Horse and Ovega are. |
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Garciaparra Experienced User

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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007 05:38 Post subject: |
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| Salsassin wrote: | | I find it amusing how hypocritical Dragon Horse and Ovega are. |
Why were they expelled? |
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Salsassin Suspended

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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007 05:39 Post subject: |
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| Garciaparra wrote: | | Salsassin wrote: | | I find it amusing how hypocritical Dragon Horse and Ovega are. |
Why were they expelled? |
Ask the moderators. |
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fwsweet Administrator

Joined: 26 Nov 2004 {Posts: 4587 } Location: Palm Coast, FL
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007 09:54 Post subject: |
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| Salsassin wrote: | | Garciaparra wrote: | | Salsassin wrote: | | I find it amusing how hypocritical Dragon Horse and Ovega are. |
Why were they expelled? |
Ask the moderators. |
Dragon Horse was not expelled. His privilege was suspended for one week for repeatedly (and despite multiple warnngs) engaging in ad hominem towards a member of mixed ancestry who self-identified as White and openly disdained calling himself "Black." Although the suspension ended after one week, Dragon Horse never returned.
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Salsassin Suspended

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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007 10:19 Post subject: |
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| I highly suspect GarciaParra is following in Ovega's footsteps but without Ovega's contributions. |
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Garciaparra Experienced User

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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007 10:20 Post subject: |
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| Salsassin wrote: | | I highly suspect GarciaParra is following in Ovega's footsteps but without Ovega's contributions. |
Explain yourself? |
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Salsassin Suspended

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G-Man Moderator

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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007 16:22 Post subject: |
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| Salsassin wrote: | | I highly suspect GarciaParra is following in Ovega's footsteps but without Ovega's contributions. |
Ovega had issues with discussing the existence of African ancestry in parts of Latin America where he felt there was none. Like others who shall not be named he creates the straw man that evidence of this admixture and discussion surrounding it is an attempt to declare these people black or mulatto. More than once he had problems dealing with this....Like other people who have passed through here. Ovega also had an annoying habit of referring to Latinos as "we". It was as if Chile was representative of all of Latin America.
Frank Sweet already dealt with Dragon Horse's objections. |
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Salsassin Suspended

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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2007 16:27 Post subject: |
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| G-Man wrote: | | Salsassin wrote: | | I highly suspect GarciaParra is following in Ovega's footsteps but without Ovega's contributions. |
Ovega had issues with discussing the existence of African ancestry in parts of Latin America where he felt there was none. Like others who shall not be named he creates the straw man that evidence of this admixture and discussion surrounding it is an attempt to declare these people black or mulatto. More than once he had problems dealing with this....Like other people who have passed through here. Ovega also had an annoying habit of referring to Latinos as "we". It was as if Chile was representative of all of Latin America.
Frank Sweet already dealt with Dragon Horse's objections. |
I correct myself. No suspicion. It is certainty. |
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William Moderator

Joined: 30 Mar 2005 {Posts: 1057 } Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Tue 10 Jul 2007 15:01 Post subject: |
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http://www.biodiversityforum.com/sex-biased-gene-flow-in-americans-t7687.html
| Dragon Horse wrote: | | I understand your point. Don't worry about One-Drop Rule, those people have some extreme bias. They hide behind their rules and selectively enforce them to promote their own propaganda. I got sick of posting there as it was obvious they were very anti-black and very pro-mixed race supremacy. I never believe that you have to promote one group by trashing another. That tells me a lot about who is posting and running the site. |
This should explain Dragon Horse's absence. It is simultaneously amusing and disturbing that our site should be accused of promoting propaganda. We are clearly the most scholarly debating site there is on the subjects we discuss, since we demand sources and do not tolerate fabrications.
And, for the record, Omar Vega found no hole in Frank's or my "theories." We presented facts, backed by sources. He simply chose to ignore them and he set up straw man arguments that he could easily demolish. |
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G-Man Moderator

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Posted: Tue 10 Jul 2007 19:17 Post subject: |
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| William wrote: | http://www.biodiversityforum.com/sex-biased-gene-flow-in-americans-t7687.html
| Dragon Horse wrote: | | I understand your point. Don't worry about One-Drop Rule, those people have some extreme bias. They hide behind their rules and selectively enforce them to promote their own propaganda. I got sick of posting there as it was obvious they were very anti-black and very pro-mixed race supremacy. I never believe that you have to promote one group by trashing another. That tells me a lot about who is posting and running the site. |
This should explain Dragon Horse's absence. It is simultaneously amusing and disturbing that our site should be accused of promoting propaganda. We are clearly the most scholarly debating site there is on the subjects we discuss, since we demand sources and do not tolerate fabrications.
And, for the record, Omar Vega found no hole in Frank's or my "theories." We presented facts, backed by sources. He simply chose to ignore them and he set up straw man arguments that he could easily demolish. |
You notice that DH's remarks aren't backed up by any examples. Methinks his MAIN problem is the opinion of others on here, which he finds anti-black, and since these people aren't automatically banned (because they haven't violated any rules) he concludes that this site is anti-black and "pro mixed-race" supremacy. |
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DChapman Moderator

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I find it interesting that DH and Omar have found an "ally" in each other. I happen to recall that they went after each other and at least DH was warned.
I guess it all boils down to the old "enemy of my enemy is my friend". |
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