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gemini072 Moderator

Joined: 27 Nov 2004 {Posts: 2942 }
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Posted: Mon 16 Jul 2007 17:26 Post subject: John Rocker |
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Here is the baseball player who some years ago in NYC made those racists & sexist remarks to fans who booed him. That's his girlfriend
So, the rest of the early arrivals start to filter in. I'm alerted that John Rocker and Alicia Marie are milling about. Hey, they know Deadspin! Right? They do, actually, and give their regards to the Royal We. Alicia Marie says that when she and John were walking through Coconut Grove, O.J. Simpson stopped while in the back of his white limo, rolled down the window, and hollered over to John Rocker that he's a fan of his. Brilliant.
Most other people would probably lose their minds from such a creepy encounter with the Juice, but Rocker seemed a little perplexed of how to take the compliment, shrugged, and appeared to accept it for better, worse, and weirdness.
"He's kind of fat now, " Rocker said.
They graciously agreed to take a picture and then Rocker requested that there be no altering with photoshop. "Don't make it so her top's off or that I'm saying "I Hate Black People" or something." Luckily, I would have no idea how to do such a thing. They ruled
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Salsassin SuperWizard

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Posted: Tue 17 Jul 2007 00:01 Post subject: |
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| Cute, other than the breast implants... |
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Creole GAL Wizard

Joined: 12 Mar 2007 {Posts: 433 }
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Posted: Wed 18 Jul 2007 04:16 Post subject: |
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John Rocker is good looking. His girlfriend is very pretty. I do not like his statements.
The question of this thread...
Some White guys just like women. Some Black guys ,Asian guys , etc. just like women. I remember th escene in that movie , Something New, which is still running on HBO, this White guy told this Black girl he had met on a blind date tha the has dated women. Some are sweet and some are poison.
There are White guys, Asaian guys ,etc. who do not like Black girls to date I do not see that as a prejudice. Many women, Black, White, etc., date the men they like. It is not a prejudice thing. I do not think it is offensive for a guy to say he is not into a certain ethnic group of women as he might not be atracted toa certain hair color, shape, height, etc.
Preference and what one is attracted to is a personal thing like food.
Now, I think it wrong if a person has racial reasons, prejudice reasons, sterotypical things, or nasty thing to say about a group.
Ho about this question. Is it odd or strange for something to simply not be attracted or want a person of their own ethnic group?
Some Black men will date a man , LOL,before they date or marry a Black woman. Some White guys, Robert DeNiro, Chris Noth, date Black women or non-White girls. The same holds true for some women. |
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leosprycat Experienced User

Joined: 27 Nov 2004 {Posts: 168 } Location: Mid-Atlantic States; USA
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Posted: Wed 18 Jul 2007 11:00 Post subject: Re: John Rocker |
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Mr. gemini072, Sir, thanks so much for the wonderful information
on John and Alicia Marie Rocker. Yes, folks it's true. They're a
married couple, and a very attractive and accomplished one at that.
Yes (smile), Ms. Alicia Marie is more than his girlfriend, she is Mr. John
Rocker's wife. And talk about smart, wow, she's a first class lady with a
lot on the ball. In private, her name is Alicia Marie Rocker.
http://www.aliciamarie.com/biography.htm
| Quote: | Alicia Marie has been able to develop her love of performance and her knowledge and experience in the health and fitness industry into national recognition as a fitness athlete, magazine columnist and expert. As the first ever Ms. Muscle & Fitness (contracted), Alicia is now an official spokesperson for the fitness industry’s #1 magazine and has appeared on the pages of Muscle & Fitness magazine, HERS, Oxygen, Flex magazine, Ironman, Musclemag, Planet Muscle, Fitness, SELF, O Magazine, Glamour, Natural Bodybuilding & Fitness and most recently on the covers of Fitness RX for women and Oxygen magazine. As a freelance fitness writer, her articles, advice columns and workouts have appeared in numerous publications.
Ms. Marie made her mark in the competitive arena by capturing numerous regional, national and most recently international titles such as Ms. Bikini Universe 2004 - besting over 115 candidates from all over the world and taking the overall. Alicia placed fifth in the Canadian National Fitness Championships – an event considered in the industry to be one of the most competitive national-level fitness performance competitions in the world.
Adding to her list of accolades, as a “perfect parts” model, Alicia Marie was the body of Jergens Firming Body Lotion, Curel Body national advertisements and previously the “abdominals” of the Eggbeaters “0% Fat” national campaign.
No stranger to hard work, Ms. Marie has also been a production executive for MTV: Music Television and VH1 as a manager for the channels’ Broadcast Standards.
Alicia Marie graduated Cum Laude and with Honors and Distinction from the University of Connecticut with a degree in Neuroscience and more recently has studied writing for broadcast news and reporting at the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and New York University. |
Respect and good wishes to each
of you and to your loved ones;
Leo Y. "Ireland" Abdulmalik  |
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Andrew Waters Mentor

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Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2007 07:22 Post subject: |
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She has too many abdominal muscles showing; the stomach is much too vicious for a woman; it needs to have a slight but gentle swell to it; too many weight lifting curves on her arms (leave that part for me to do). Besides she has an Army top on instead of Marine.
In my opinion of course. Can't leave that out. |
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gemini072 Moderator

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Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2007 12:42 Post subject: |
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| Andrew Waters wrote: | She has too many abdominal muscles showing; the stomach is much too vicious for a woman; it needs to have a slight but gentle swell to it; too many weight lifting curves on her arms (leave that part for me to do). Besides she has an Army top on instead of Marine.
In my opinion of course. Can't leave that out. |
She is into the Fitness Competition world. I think she even did some stuff with the WWE federation. I guess her boyfriend likes it |
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DucorpsToo Mentor

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Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2007 14:24 Post subject: |
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My private gymnastics instructor has a physique like the above photo. She's always particular about what she eats and does work out quite a bit. Personally I like that sort of physique. Whenever I watch the Olympics, I do like to watch some of the women's track-and-field events (i.e. the sprinters, short-distance runners, relays, heptathalon...) as I do like those well scupted physiques.
Personally I wouldn't mind having an athletic shape as shown above. (I'd rather have that than fat ) However some of those shapes of the women that I've seen in those "muscle" magazines look rather nauseating as they (as well as the men) have a rather cartoonish appearance. But then again, the phrase "anabolic steroids" run through my head whenever I see those pictures. |
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leosprycat Experienced User

Joined: 27 Nov 2004 {Posts: 168 } Location: Mid-Atlantic States; USA
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Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2007 15:15 Post subject: |
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Well, Kind Sir (Mr. Gemini072), I guess you're right (big smile).
I looked around to see, and it looks as though the article I read
showing them to be married has now been changed to not mention
the marriage. I thank you for your kind correction of my mistake.
With humble respect;
Leo Y. "Ireland" Abdulmalik
EDITED: to remove the quotes.
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gemini072 Moderator

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Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2007 15:34 Post subject: |
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| leosprycat wrote: | | gemini072 wrote: | | Andrew Waters wrote: | She has too many abdominal muscles showing; the stomach is much too vicious for a woman; it needs to have a slight but gentle swell to it; too many weight lifting curves on her arms (leave that part for me to do). Besides she has an Army top on instead of Marine.
In my opinion of course. Can't leave that out. |
She is into the Fitness Competition world. I think she even did some stuff with the WWE federation. I guess her boyfriend likes it |
Well, Kind Sir (Mr. Gemini072), I guess you're right (big smile).
I looked around to see, and it looks as though the article I read
showing them to be married has now been changed to not mention
the marriage. I thank you for your kind correction of my mistake.
With humble respect;
Leo Y. "Ireland" Abdulmalik  |
oh, lol I was not correcting you Leo |
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leosprycat Experienced User

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Posted: Thu 19 Jul 2007 17:20 Post subject: |
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| gemini072 wrote: | | leosprycat wrote: |
Well, Kind Sir (Mr. Gemini072), I guess you're right (big smile).
I looked around to see, and it looks as though the article I read
showing them to be married has now been changed to not mention
the marriage. I thank you for your kind correction of my mistake.
With humble respect;
Leo Y. "Ireland" Abdulmalik  |
oh, lol I was not correcting you Leo |
*chuckle*
*big smile*
Leo
EDITED: to remove a few quotes.
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lois New User

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Andrew Waters Mentor

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Posted: Fri 20 Jul 2007 04:36 Post subject: |
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And I will agree it looks like her outfit gives the impression of nakedness underneath. (Didn't want to mention it but since you did...)
Since the majority of women can easily be distinguished from men I see no reason to actually let me see you are a woman. I know, old fashioned; even when I was in my twenties. Of course I won't go to war over what a women wears or doesn't but I think taste means a lot also. Then again, a lot of women and men think the hot look is cool.
And I still have to nitpick here. I see nothing redeeming about a woman who wants her stomach to rival some men bodybuilders even if she is doing the fitness routine and works hard to maintain the ''six pack look''; even though her boyfriend likes it; which has nothing to do with him anyway as she undoubtedly looked like that when he met her. I see nothing rewarding about her upper chest which shows unmistakeable signs of bench pressing (see tank- top photo).
At the same time I will agree those men and women with the ''popeye'' physiques are a real turn off too. But this is also called freedom to express oneself.
Finally, back on topic, what was it Rocker said about Black people that was distracting to so many (I don't recall) and how did the two come together in light of this. |
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Melani23 Suspended

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Posted: Fri 20 Jul 2007 12:57 Post subject: |
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I both heard and read his comments since he was an ATL Brave at the time.
He may/may not be racist towards Blacks, but his main 'concern' which he expressed in SI was more against immigrants (welfare) and people who do not speak English.
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sagascend Moderator-at-Large

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Posted: Fri 20 Jul 2007 13:45 Post subject: |
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He's not the best-looking guy but they look happy so that's all that matters.
She's nowhere near as trashy looking as Pamela Anderson, Coco (Mrs. Ice-T) or Carmen Electra. She actually looks very sweet. If I worked that hard on my body you might be hard pressed to find much clothing in my wardrobe either.  |
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lois New User

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Posted: Fri 20 Jul 2007 15:42 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Andrew Waters asked Finally back on topic, what was it Roker said? |
About New York, Rocker said, "The biggest thing I don't like about New York are the foreigners. I'm not a very big fan of foreigners. You can walk an entire block in Times Square and not hear anybody speaking English. Asians and Koreans and Vietnamese and Indians and Russians and Spanish people and everything up there. How the hell did they get in this country?" He called a black teammate a "fat monkey," and criticized the way Japanese women drive. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/elder123199.asp
| Quote: | | How did the two come together in light of this? |
After his sensitiveity sessions he was forced to attend it appears that is when he was spotted with Alicia Marie.
"Race-baiting ex-Atlanta Braves pitcher John Rocker -- the same retired redneck who drew the ire of New York City with his impromptu bigoted tirade against non-white New Yorkers -- seems to have had a change of view. The New York Post reports Rocker was seen snuggling with a 'tall, model-esque black woman' at a club. Rocker's rep said the woman on his arm that night was fitness model/freelance writer Alicia Marie."
http://www.castefootball.us/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2843&PN=1 |
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Creole GAL Wizard

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Posted: Sun 29 Jul 2007 23:03 Post subject: |
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Alicia Maire Rocker is very smart and has somethign long lasting going for herself other than just her looks. She is very pretty.
That is nice. |
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G-Man Moderator

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Posted: Wed 01 Aug 2007 13:23 Post subject: |
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He also said:
"Imagine having to take the (Number) 7 train to the ballpark, looking like you're (riding through) Beirut next to some kid with purple hair next to some queer with AIDS right next to some dude who just got out of jail for the fourth time right next to some 20-year-old mom with four kids."
To be honest his description of the passengers on the 7 train is accurate, and it appears from his comments that he was unsettled by all that diversity New York is known for. But then his comments would have found receptive ears among many white and black Americans from places less diverse like the Midwest and the South.
Why is he involved with a black woman after making those remarks? Could be because he sees her as less foreign (being an American) than the other people, including Russians, he encountered in New York. |
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