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Andrew Waters
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From Monica:
''The way pork is prepared in the Black community is/was very saltly, very greasey and the Nation of Islam knew/ and taught that this was detrimental to heath.''
So it isn't the pigs fault I see. I knew all along God wouldn't make a pig that wasn't up to par. |
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Melani23
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| Posted: Tue 06 Nov 2007 15:47 Post subject: |
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| Andrew Waters wrote: | From Monica:
''The way pork is prepared in the Black community is/was very saltly, very greasey and the Nation of Islam knew/ and taught that this was detrimental to heath.''
So it isn't the pigs fault I see. I knew all along God wouldn't make a pig that wasn't up to par. |
IMO, the NOI is just a fake socio-political pan-African ideology group that samples some beliefs from Islam (a world religion) and makes up the rest with using 'Black (AA) Conscienceness'.
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gemini072
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| Posted: Tue 06 Nov 2007 16:03 Post subject: |
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| Melani23 wrote: | | Andrew Waters wrote: | From Monica:
''The way pork is prepared in the Black community is/was very saltly, very greasey and the Nation of Islam knew/ and taught that this was detrimental to heath.''
So it isn't the pigs fault I see. I knew all along God wouldn't make a pig that wasn't up to par. |
IMO, the NOI is just a fake socio-political pan-African ideology group that samples some beliefs from Islam (a world religion) and makes up the rest with using 'Black (AA) Conscienceness'.
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the guy who started it, who got Elijah Mohammed started was either a white man or a white looking multiracial |
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Monica
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| Posted: Tue 06 Nov 2007 22:44 Post subject: |
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| gemini072 wrote: | | Melani23 wrote: | | Andrew Waters wrote: | From Monica:
''The way pork is prepared in the Black community is/was very saltly, very greasey and the Nation of Islam knew/ and taught that this was detrimental to heath.''
So it isn't the pigs fault I see. I knew all along God wouldn't make a pig that wasn't up to par. |
IMO, the NOI is just a fake socio-political pan-African ideology group that samples some beliefs from Islam (a world religion) and makes up the rest with using 'Black (AA) Conscienceness'.
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the guy who started it, who got Elijah Mohammed started was either a white man or a white looking multiracial |
I believe Master Farad had to have been an arab immigrant.
I am in agreement with one small correction....IMO, the NOI is a real socio-political pan-African ideology group that samples some beliefs from Islam (a world religion) and makes up the rest with using 'Black (AA) Conscienceness'.  |
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anonymouse
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| Care to buy a bean pie my brotha? Final Call my sista? |
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chasbyrd
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| Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2007 16:23 Post subject: |
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| Monica wrote: | | I believe Master Farad had to have been an arab immigrant. |
Wallace Fard Muhammad (Wikipedia profile)
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Melani23
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| Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2007 21:36 Post subject: |
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Mods,
Please split this topic from W.L. to single parents, etc....
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DChapman
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| Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2007 21:42 Post subject: |
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| Melani23 wrote: | Mods,
Please split this topic from W.L. to single parents, etc....
Thanks! |
Good idea, will do. |
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DChapman
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| Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2007 21:53 Post subject: |
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| What would be a good title for this topic???? |
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Monica
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| Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2007 21:56 Post subject: |
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| DChapman wrote: | | What would be a good title for this topic???? |
Poverty and US Children |
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DChapman
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| Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2007 22:13 Post subject: |
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| Monica wrote: | | DChapman wrote: | | What would be a good title for this topic???? |
Poverty and US Children |
Done. |
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Monica
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| Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2007 22:16 Post subject: Back to Willie Lynch |
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Here is the thing about the Willie Lynch story...the same information can be gotten by taking a college level psychology, sociology course and a history course on colonialism...but those classes are offered for money to a select group...
The Nation of Islam put this information out there for "me", for free in a way "i" can understand because they "care" about "me"...thats the best way I can put it. |
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fwsweet
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| Posted: Thu 08 Nov 2007 00:14 Post subject: Re: Back to Willie Lynch |
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| Monica wrote: | | Here is the thing about the Willie Lynch story...the same information can be gotten by taking a college level psychology, sociology course and a history course on colonialism... |
Not true. The story is a known obvious hoax pure and simple. You can embrace known obvious hoaxes in many places, but college is not one of them. |
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Monica
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| Posted: Thu 08 Nov 2007 11:45 Post subject: Re: Back to Willie Lynch |
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| fwsweet wrote: | | Monica wrote: | | Here is the thing about the Willie Lynch story...the same information can be gotten by taking a college level psychology, sociology course and a history course on colonialism... |
Not true. The story is a known obvious hoax pure and simple. You can embrace known obvious hoaxes in many places, but college is not one of them. |
What I am saying is the "guts" or the "moral" of the Willie Lynch Story can be learned in college classes.
In the same way the story of The Boy who Cried Wolf is really talking about desensitizing a particular population to a message. |
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DucorpsToo
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| Quote: | | In the same way the story of The Boy who Cried Wolf is really talking about desensitizing a particular population to a message. |
Huh? Desensitizing what population to what message? |
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Monica
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| DucorpsToo wrote: | | Quote: | | In the same way the story of The Boy who Cried Wolf is really talking about desensitizing a particular population to a message. |
Huh? Desensitizing what population to what message? |
The Boy Who Cried Wolf
he told the villagers a wolf was attacking him and everyone came running and there was no wolf,
then he did it again, and they came running
and when a real wolf was attcking no one came...
YOU NEVER HEARD THAT? |
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DucorpsToo
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| Quote: | The Boy Who Cried Wolf
he told the villagers a wolf was attacking him and everyone came running and there was no wolf,
then he did it again, and they came running
and when a real wolf was attcking no one came...
YOU NEVER HEARD THAT? |
Yeesh, you don't need to yell [all caps]. Of course I've heard the story. See, this is the problem which is inherent with communicating via an internet message board and not face-to-face with a living human. By the way your post was worded..I had interpreted the phrase "certain populations" and "certain message" were referring not to those mentioned within the allegorical tale itself, but to real-life people. In which case I was wondering which population of real-life persons (just children?, adults..etc) was being referred to in the post. |
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punjabtrini
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In agreement with Monica while saying that for me, in the Caribbean (Trinidad, at least) old people would tell stories or have certain expressions to 'guide' you in a certain direction or be wary of certain things that are good or detrimental.
These stories or sayings were a source of instruction and moral education.
After a time, if you listen to the stories, you realize that the essence is the same but the names changed according to the educational level of the families involved.
There is a saying 'monkey know which tree to climb' having to do with people taking advantage of you, plus a multitutud of short stories about the societal outlook. Again, the further you move from this environment (village), the more one may look down on the utility of this type of teaching, which I believe is losing, or lost its sting.
I may not believe in ths NOI movement but the Willie Lynch syndrome still packs a punch but you have to know how to make it a positive influence! Look at what is it saying!
If one seeks to rename it William Lynch, it takes on a whole new meaning!
Doesn't it? |
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G-Man
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These stories or sayings were a source of instruction and moral education.
After a time, if you listen to the stories, you realize that the essence is the same but the names changed according to the educational level of the families involved.
There is a saying 'monkey know which tree to climb' having to do with people taking advantage of you, plus a multitutud of short stories about the societal outlook. Again, the further you move from this environment (village), the more one may look down on the utility of this type of teaching, which I believe is losing, or lost its sting.
I may not believe in ths NOI movement but the Willie Lynch syndrome still packs a punch but you have to know how to make it a positive influence! Look at what is it saying! |
Or maybe it reinforces feelings of victimization, inaction, and conspiracy theorizing as an explanation for all that befalls you. |
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punjabtrini
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G-man said | Quote: | | Or maybe it reinforces feelings of victimization, inaction, and conspiracy theorizing as an explanation for all that befalls you |
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People are wired differently and based on my experience of the 'nancy tales and my village education (partly), I see the Willie Lynch ahistorical hagiographic syndrome as a wakeup call as opposed to a conspiracy!
Examing the undercurrent, regardless of who said it and why should be the modus operandi as opposed to the alleged veracity of the 'confused matrix of modern society' as eveidenced by the NOI.
So if the NOI goes hungry, they have their own bean pies so no external entity to rely on to survive! Self reliance is always a positive goal! |
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