The Study of Racialism

BillyMadison79 · Experienced User Joined: 01 Mar 2007 {Posts: 133 }

Black.

Looks like the one drop rule is really catching on in Brazil. A few years ago a person in Brazil who looks like this identifying oneself as Black would have been completely unheard of before the whole quotas thing came along.
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American_Mulatto · Posted: Fri 12 Oct 2007 21:20 Post subject:

Why does it have to be a product of the one drop rule affecting her judgement? I think, if she happens to have African relatives she can identify as she wants.

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Whatareyou? · Regular User Joined: 03 Sep 2007 {Posts: 55 }

She can do so with little impunity, I doubt a dark person however could claim to be European or White without being reprimanded.

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bronxnik · New User Joined: 24 Dec 2007 {Posts: 19 }

>>> I doubt a dark person however could claim to be European or White without being reprimanded.

I can't prove this, but I have this feeling that ever since "Dances With Wolves", there's been a lot of BS'ing about having Amerind blood.

A hundred years ago, people would hide Amerind blood.

A hundred years from now, what will be the trendy bloodline? Has to be something that's now loathed.

EG: "I'm a mutt: Irish, Trinidadian, Taiwanese, and Pedophile grandparents"

fwsweet · Posted: Thu 27 Dec 2007 01:00 Post subject:

OTHER · Posted: Thu 27 Dec 2007 01:45 Post subject:

bronxnik · New User Joined: 24 Dec 2007 {Posts: 19 }

>>bronxnik wrote:
>I doubt a dark person however could claim to be European or White >without being reprimanded.

no, it's NOT what I wrote. Re-read the chain of quotes in the thread, Sir.

fwsweet · Posted: Thu 27 Dec 2007 22:10 Post subject:

bronxnik wrote: "['I doubt a dark person however could claim to be European or White without being reprimanded' is] NOT what I wrote. Re-read the chain of quotes in the thread, Sir."

Ah yes, I see. You were trying to quote whatareyou. It looked like a statement of your own. To avoid future confusion, you might use the accepted convention as follows:

[quote]the quotation[/quote]

William · Posted: Fri 28 Dec 2007 16:14 Post subject:

BillyMadison79 · Experienced User Joined: 01 Mar 2007 {Posts: 133 }

If that girl said she was Black to a group of Afro Brazilian Favelados in Salvador,Bahia for example they would look at her like she's crazy and call her a crazy Branquela. By the way for those who don't know Branquela is Portuguese for White girl. Remember unlike the U.S in Brazil Blacks are not socially seen as this extremely diverse group that phenotype wise spans the spectrum and can look like anything. You have to look a certain way to be considered Black because there is no one drop rule down there.

MisterLawyer · Posted: Sat 29 Dec 2007 01:26 Post subject:

William · Posted: Sat 29 Dec 2007 01:41 Post subject:

BillyMadison79 · Experienced User Joined: 01 Mar 2007 {Posts: 133 }

If Blacks in Brazil could literally look like anything and span the spectrum when it comes to phenotypes than alot more than just 6% of Brazilians would identify themselves as such. Plus I have been to Brazil before I so I know from personal experience what passes and doesn't pass for Black/Negro/Preto down there.

A Brazilian who looks like this

Would definitely not see a Brazilian who looks like this as his fellow Black Sista, even if she insists that she is Black. If these 2 were dating Brazilians on the streets would definitely label them an Interracial couple and not as a Black couple.

Anybody who disagrees obviously has never step foot in Brazil and does not how things work down there. The term Black/Negro/Preto in Brazil obviously does not include as many diverse phenotypes as Black in the U.S does.A White looking Black person is considered an oxymoron term down there. To most Brazilians there is no such thing as a Negro com apparencia Branco.

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BillyMadison79 · Experienced User Joined: 01 Mar 2007 {Posts: 133 }

SSA features and very dark complexion, you mean someone like this

I have NEVER seen a Brazilian who looks like that identify themselves as White. Some people on race forums definitely overexagerrate as to what they think passes for White in Brazil. Especially when you can actually find people in Brazil who are so fair complexioned that they would not look out of place in Central and Northern Europe though most of them are concentrated in the Southern region states which was a hotspot for German immigration. Look at how fair this little Brazilian girl is. She would definitely not look out of place at a playground full of American WASP children.

William · Posted: Sat 29 Dec 2007 02:27 Post subject:

BillyMadison79 · Experienced User Joined: 01 Mar 2007 {Posts: 133 }

Pele is a millionaire but I don't hear any Brazilians referring to him as a Branco just because he has money. Infact he has never been referred by the Brazilian media as anything but a Negro/Afro Brasileiro. So even though his financial social status changed, his social racial status still hasn't. How do you explain that William ?