Posted: Tue 08 Jan 2008 17:49 Post subject: Re: Interesting
Lill wrote:
No one of my children look "black" and I nor anyone else here in Swedish would call them "black". To me and other people here in Sweden it is very fascinating the way most people in USA call everyone with a black decsendant "black". The way I see it you call people the way they look. If you look black and have dark skin you are black, if you have medium brown skin you are mixed and if you look white you are white, it is as simple as that, if you even have to label people at all. We are all humans!
If we're all humans, I don't understand why you need to label people by what they look like in the first place.
The fact of the matter is, human beings categorize and will continue to categorize. Organizing humans by the way they look, in my opinon, is worse than organizing people based on their cultural or ethnic heritage.
What's so hard about letting people decide for themselves what they want to be?
If we're all humans, I don't understand why you need to label people by what they look like in the first place.
Famu,
We are human therefore no conditional reference to meet.
In most parts of the world (believe it or not) people call you what you are and there is no labelling. It is only USA where this exists (in most instances). USA is not the world, I think!
To Famu:
I don't mean that you have to "label" people, I just mean that it is VERY strange how people in USA call everyone who, had a black great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather, black. If you do that you also agree that somehow "black blood" is toxifying the blood. If someone looking European would say that they are black to a person here in Sweden, the person wouldn't understand.
Why is someone 1/4 black and 3/4 white, black?? How can a person be black when most of their DNA are white?? And if they on top of that look white, how come people in america still call that person black?
To us living in Sweden and the rest of Europe it is a very strange way of thinking.
And it is even more strange when black people themselves say things like this, it is like Americans are brainwashed by "The One Drop Rule".
Posted: Sun 24 Feb 2008 06:05 Post subject: hahahahah
This is very interesting, but it explains a lot. I had a guyenese friend who looked totally portuguese, but his grandaddy was a full blown black person. Lol. These children looked like they were adopted, are you sure, that the girl with the Young and Restless Star is her daughter?
Posted: Sun 24 Feb 2008 23:45 Post subject: Re: The USA racial party line
Lill wrote:
To Famu:
I don't mean that you have to "label" people, I just mean that it is VERY strange how people in USA call everyone who, had a black great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather, black. If you do that you also agree that somehow "black blood" is toxifying the blood. If someone looking European would say that they are black to a person here in Sweden, the person wouldn't understand.
Why is someone 1/4 black and 3/4 white, black?? How can a person be black when most of their DNA are white?? And if they on top of that look white, how come people in america still call that person black?
To us living in Sweden and the rest of Europe it is a very strange way of thinking.
And it is even more strange when black people themselves say things like this, it is like Americans are brainwashed by "The One Drop Rule".
The really sad thing is that black-identified elites who support the "one drop" myth and their white-identified enablers send these destructive messages:
(1) There is something inferior about "black" or sub-Saharan ancestry since no other ancestry has a "one drop rule" and, since even blacks themselves support the "one drop" myth, they themselves must know this is true. These are the people with whom Bliss Broyard has allied herself.
(2) The overrepresentation of mulattoes, mixed whites, etc. in the "black racial resume" means that the intelligence of these people comes from their white ancestry. Euro genes do the work and SSA genes get the credit, you might say. Some blacks are claiming, for example, that predominately white Anatole Broyard could have somehow eliminated all discrimination against "black" authors (however "discrimination" is defined) if only he had identified with them.
(3) Racial equality becomes, thanks to the black American embrace of the "one drop" myth, just a party line that "everyone" must parrot but "everyone" knows is not true.
Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008 11:35 Post subject: Re: The USA racial party line
Powell wrote:
Lill wrote:
To Famu:
I don't mean that you have to "label" people, I just mean that it is VERY strange how people in USA call everyone who, had a black great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather, black. If you do that you also agree that somehow "black blood" is toxifying the blood. If someone looking European would say that they are black to a person here in Sweden, the person wouldn't understand.
Why is someone 1/4 black and 3/4 white, black?? How can a person be black when most of their DNA are white?? And if they on top of that look white, how come people in america still call that person black?
To us living in Sweden and the rest of Europe it is a very strange way of thinking.
And it is even more strange when black people themselves say things like this, it is like Americans are brainwashed by "The One Drop Rule".
The really sad thing is that black-identified elites who support the "one drop" myth and their white-identified enablers send these destructive messages:
(1) There is something inferior about "black" or sub-Saharan ancestry since no other ancestry has a "one drop rule" and, since even blacks themselves support the "one drop" myth, they themselves must know this is true. These are the people with whom Bliss Broyard has allied herself.
(2) The overrepresentation of mulattoes, mixed whites, etc. in the "black racial resume" means that the intelligence of these people comes from their white ancestry. Euro genes do the work and SSA genes get the credit, you might say. Some blacks are claiming, for example, that predominately white Anatole Broyard could have somehow eliminated all discrimination against "black" authors (however "discrimination" is defined) if only he had identified with them.
(3) Racial equality becomes, thanks to the black American embrace of the "one drop" myth, just a party line that "everyone" must parrot but "everyone" knows is not true.
Can you provide proof or specific information on WHO said these things (first and last name) and WHAT exactly was it they said (independant source for the quotes you refer to) thanks in advance
Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008 13:59 Post subject: Re: The USA racial party line
Monica wrote:
Powell wrote:
Lill wrote:
To Famu:
I don't mean that you have to "label" people, I just mean that it is VERY strange how people in USA call everyone who, had a black great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather, black. If you do that you also agree that somehow "black blood" is toxifying the blood. If someone looking European would say that they are black to a person here in Sweden, the person wouldn't understand.
Why is someone 1/4 black and 3/4 white, black?? How can a person be black when most of their DNA are white?? And if they on top of that look white, how come people in america still call that person black?
To us living in Sweden and the rest of Europe it is a very strange way of thinking.
And it is even more strange when black people themselves say things like this, it is like Americans are brainwashed by "The One Drop Rule".
The really sad thing is that black-identified elites who support the "one drop" myth and their white-identified enablers send these destructive messages:
(1) There is something inferior about "black" or sub-Saharan ancestry since no other ancestry has a "one drop rule" and, since even blacks themselves support the "one drop" myth, they themselves must know this is true. These are the people with whom Bliss Broyard has allied herself.
(2) The overrepresentation of mulattoes, mixed whites, etc. in the "black racial resume" means that the intelligence of these people comes from their white ancestry. Euro genes do the work and SSA genes get the credit, you might say. Some blacks are claiming, for example, that predominately white Anatole Broyard could have somehow eliminated all discrimination against "black" authors (however "discrimination" is defined) if only he had identified with them.
(3) Racial equality becomes, thanks to the black American embrace of the "one drop" myth, just a party line that "everyone" must parrot but "everyone" knows is not true.
Can you provide proof or specific information on WHO said these things (first and last name) and WHAT exactly was it they said (independant source for the quotes you refer to) thanks in advance
You ought to realize that no individuals are being quoted. The statements are educated opinion based on experience and logic.
Has any "white" person ever said to you directly, "I hate blacks"? Using YOUR logic, no whites hate blacks.
Posted: Tue 26 Feb 2008 14:36 Post subject: Re: The USA racial party line
Powell wrote:
Lill wrote:
To Famu:
I don't mean that you have to "label" people, I just mean that it is VERY strange how people in USA call everyone who, had a black great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather, black. If you do that you also agree that somehow "black blood" is toxifying the blood. If someone looking European would say that they are black to a person here in Sweden, the person wouldn't understand.
Why is someone 1/4 black and 3/4 white, black?? How can a person be black when most of their DNA are white?? And if they on top of that look white, how come people in america still call that person black?
To us living in Sweden and the rest of Europe it is a very strange way of thinking.
And it is even more strange when black people themselves say things like this, it is like Americans are brainwashed by "The One Drop Rule".
The really sad thing is that black-identified elites who support the "one drop" myth and their white-identified enablers send these destructive messages:
(1) There is something inferior about "black" or sub-Saharan ancestry since no other ancestry has a "one drop rule" and, since even blacks themselves support the "one drop" myth, they themselves must know this is true. These are the people with whom Bliss Broyard has allied herself.
(2) The overrepresentation of mulattoes, mixed whites, etc. in the "black racial resume" means that the intelligence of these people comes from their white ancestry. Euro genes do the work and SSA genes get the credit, you might say. Some blacks are claiming, for example, that predominately white Anatole Broyard could have somehow eliminated all discrimination against "black" authors (however "discrimination" is defined) if only he had identified with them.
(3) Racial equality becomes, thanks to the black American embrace of the "one drop" myth, just a party line that "everyone" must parrot but "everyone" knows is not true.
If we're all humans, I don't understand why you need to label people by what they look like in the first place.
Famu,
We are human therefore no conditional reference to meet.
In most parts of the world (believe it or not) people call you what you are
but isn't that labelling? what I mean is unless they are saying your "there goes another fellow human being" aren't they labelling you if they don't know what you are or what you identify as?
and there is no labelling. It is only USA where this exists (in most instances). USA is not the world, I think!
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Posted: Tue 26 Feb 2008 23:07 Post subject:
Monica wrote:
Can you provide proof or specific information on WHO said these things (first and last name) and WHAT exactly was it they said (independant source for the quotes you refer to) thanks in advance
What AD was stating was her opinion. So I suppose the answer to your question would be: AD Powell....
Posted: Tue 26 Feb 2008 23:47 Post subject: Let's try this again...
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The really sad thing is that black-identified elites who support the "one drop" myth and their white-identified enablers send these destructive messages:
(1) There is something inferior about "black" or sub-Saharan ancestry since no other ancestry has a "one drop rule" and, since even blacks themselves support the "one drop" myth, they themselves must know this is true. These are the people with whom Bliss Broyard has allied herself.
(2) The overrepresentation of mulattoes, mixed whites, etc. in the "black racial resume" means that the intelligence of these people comes from their white ancestry. Euro genes do the work and SSA genes get the credit, you might say. Some blacks are claiming, for example, that predominately white Anatole Broyard could have somehow eliminated all discrimination against "black" authors (however "discrimination" is defined) if only he had identified with them.
(3) Racial equality becomes, thanks to the black American embrace of the "one drop" myth, just a party line that "everyone" must parrot but "everyone" knows is not true.
Let's say that mom and dad tell Johnny not to drive while intoxicated because it's stupid and Johnny will harm or even kill himself and others if he persists in such behavior. Johnny comes to the "logical" conclusion that mom and dad hate him and want him to be killed, since Johnny cannot tell the difference between a positive warning (These are the harmful consequences if you persist in dangerous behavior) and a wish to do harm. If mom and dad did not give a damn about Johnny, they would keep silent and not trouble themselves.
We are human therefore no conditional reference to meet.
In most parts of the world (believe it or not) people call you what you are and there is no labelling. It is only USA where this exists (in most instances). USA is not the world, I think!
We are human therefore no conditional reference to meet.
In most parts of the world (believe it or not) people call you what you are and there is no labelling. It is only USA where this exists (in most instances). USA is not the world, I think!
This is 100% false
I stand corrected! USA, at last check, is not and never has been the world!
But again, as a former Marine stationed in Okinawa, Japan, as short timers, we would use the expression of "getting back to the world", when our tour of duty ended and we were returning to continental USA!
The only place I know where the ODR exists in its present form is in the good old USA! If anyone knows of other places where this ODR monster exists, I am all ears.
The only place I know where the ODR exists in its present form is in the good old USA! If anyone knows of other places where this ODR monster exists, I am all ears.
I thought you were just speaking on labeling period?No matter where one goes throughout the world,they will be tagged with a label of some sort.By the way,may people say that Latin America has a reverse ODR.
If in by reverse ODR you mean one drop of European ancestry automatically makes one White than that is false. If that were the case than the great majority of Latin Americans would see themselves as White because most are not genetically pure Amerindian or pure African.
Check this out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Latin_American
It says between 34%-38% of people in Latin America see themselves as White. If there really was a reverse ODR than shouldn't the percentage of Whites be alot higher, unless ofcourse you really believe that only 34-38% of Latin Americans have any European ancestry at all and that the other over 60% of Latin Americans who see themselves as Nonwhite are made up entirely of pure Africans and Amerindians.
I use Wikipedia as a quick generic source but due to some of their agendas, I just laugh when I see the mierda that is pushed off as 'truth'.
The definitions of whiteness are different in Latin America and USA.
Salma Hayek and Shakira Mubarak may be considered 'white' (more or less) in USA but are 'arabe' (Lebanese) with indigena ancestry, If that is white, then asi es la vida!
It means anyone can create their own label and be that which they choose!
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