The Study of Racialism Discussion of U.S. Racialism Please read The Rules before posting.    FAQ   Search     Register     Log in  ' Bliss Broyard: Symbol of invisible blackness Goto page Previous  1, 2          The Study of Racialism Forum Index -> History of the U.S. One-Drop Rule Author Message punjabtrini Mentor Joined: 04 Sep 2007 {Posts: 253 } Location: USA Posted: Thu 14 Feb 2008 15:59    Post subject: Ok! Let me rephrase. Take the thug, the nobody, the jailbird from the street and profile them and see if there is as clear a genesis from then to now. I also note that socioeconomic status has nothing to do with DNA outcome! My only reference is that people who succeed now, regardless of socionomic status, have a tradition of self help (for lack of a better description) and therfore one can trace that seed of success to show how one can rise above ignorance and self pity! Back to top Blackman 2 Regular User Joined: 27 Jan 2008 {Posts: 69 } Posted: Thu 14 Feb 2008 16:35    Post subject: punjabtrini wrote: Ok! Let me rephrase. Take the thug, the nobody, the jailbird from the street and profile them and see if there is as clear a genesis from then to now. I also note that socioeconomic status has nothing to do with DNA outcome! My only reference is that people who succeed now, regardless of socionomic status, have a tradition of self help (for lack of a better description) and therfore one can trace that seed of success to show how one can rise above ignorance and self pity! Sure..you say that now after you realized how silly you sounded. Phil caught it right away that were implying that because these were as you put it "educated" blacks that they must be more mixed than blacks from the innercity. Back to top Blackman 2 Regular User Joined: 27 Jan 2008 {Posts: 69 } Posted: Thu 14 Feb 2008 17:03    Post subject: Speaking of Bliss,I agree with her Quote: [Professor Gates asks. Ms. Broyard, who grew up thinking she was white, says in “Lives” that she believes that her father, who died in 1990, “passed” to protect his children from racism. [She does not feel she has the right to call herself “black” now because it designates not just physicality but lived experience, she tells Professor Gates. By the way,did anyone see the picture they showed of her fathers sister?She was undeniably negroid looking in facial features. Back to top Salsassin SuperWizard Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3515 } Posted: Thu 14 Feb 2008 17:25    Post subject: Blackman 2 wrote: Speaking of Bliss,I agree with her Quote: [Professor Gates asks. Ms. Broyard, who grew up thinking she was white, says in “Lives” that she believes that her father, who died in 1990, “passed” to protect his children from racism. [She does not feel she has the right to call herself “black” now because it designates not just physicality but lived experience, she tells Professor Gates. By the way,did anyone see the picture they showed of her fathers sister?She was undeniably negroid looking in facial features. What is negroid looking to you? Back to top Blackman 2 Regular User Joined: 27 Jan 2008 {Posts: 69 } Posted: Thu 14 Feb 2008 17:28    Post subject: Salsassin wrote: Blackman 2 wrote: Speaking of Bliss,I agree with her Quote: [Professor Gates asks. Ms. Broyard, who grew up thinking she was white, says in “Lives” that she believes that her father, who died in 1990, “passed” to protect his children from racism. [She does not feel she has the right to call herself “black” now because it designates not just physicality but lived experience, she tells Professor Gates. By the way,did anyone see the picture they showed of her fathers sister?She was undeniably negroid looking in facial features. What is negroid looking to you? showing obvious negroid traits... Back to top Salsassin SuperWizard Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3515 } Posted: Thu 14 Feb 2008 18:23    Post subject: Blackman 2 wrote: Salsassin wrote: Blackman 2 wrote: Speaking of Bliss,I agree with her Quote: [Professor Gates asks. Ms. Broyard, who grew up thinking she was white, says in “Lives” that she believes that her father, who died in 1990, “passed” to protect his children from racism. [She does not feel she has the right to call herself “black” now because it designates not just physicality but lived experience, she tells Professor Gates. By the way,did anyone see the picture they showed of her fathers sister?She was undeniably negroid looking in facial features. What is negroid looking to you? showing obvious negroid traits... Do you mean seh showed obvious non european traits? Again, your claim was that she looked obviously Negroid. So what characteristics made her negroid. There are other populations in the world that have features that are similar. I haven't seen a picture of her, so unless you post one you will have to be more descriptive. Back to top punjabtrini Mentor Joined: 04 Sep 2007 {Posts: 253 } Location: USA Posted: Thu 14 Feb 2008 19:44    Post subject: my friend stated Quote: Sure..you say that now after you realized how silly you sounded. Phil caught it right away that were implying that because these were as you put it "educated" blacks that they must be more mixed than blacks from the innercity. I said nothing stating Quote: "educated" blacks that they must be more mixed than blacks from the innercity . Education is the tool through which success and personal autonomy is directed to gain economic parity within the societal milieu, nothing more. My limited knowledge and understanding leads me to believe that those who eschew knowledge and education tend to relegate themselves to a 'subculture status' with all its points of contention. Whether it is valid or not, I do not know. Back to top fwsweet Administrator Joined: 26 Nov 2004 {Posts: 5377 } Location: Palm Coast, FL Posted: Fri 15 Feb 2008 02:06    Post subject: Blackman 2 wrote: Sure..you say that now after you realized how silly you sounded. That was ad hominem. Please read The Rules, especially paragraph 2.2. This is a first warning. Back to top Blackman 2 Regular User Joined: 27 Jan 2008 {Posts: 69 } Posted: Fri 15 Feb 2008 14:56    Post subject: Salsassin wrote: Do you mean seh showed obvious non european traits? Again, your claim was that she looked obviously Negroid. So what characteristics made her negroid. There are other populations in the world that have features that are similar. I haven't seen a picture of her, so unless you post one you will have to be more descriptive. I guess you're just going to have to wait until you see a pic of her.They showed it on the very first episode. Back to top Blackman 2 Regular User Joined: 27 Jan 2008 {Posts: 69 } Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2008 06:57    Post subject: here goes a pic of Broyards sister.I captured it from the video. Back to top Salsassin SuperWizard Joined: 04 Apr 2005 {Posts: 3515 } Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2008 11:35    Post subject: Blackman 2 wrote: here goes a pic of Broyards sister.I captured it from the video. Looks like many Native American women I have seen. Not unmistakably negroid. Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         The Study of Racialism Forum Index -> History of the U.S. One-Drop Rule All times are GMT Goto page Previous  1, 2 Page 2 of 2 Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group