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PostPosted: Wed 21 May 2008 00:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sean Paul, Jamaican born Reggeaton pioneer (part Chinese, Irish, German, and African)


Sean Paul is neither a reggaeton artist nor a pioneer of any type of music.


No? Well, what is he, then?
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PostPosted: Wed 21 May 2008 00:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mulan, Naomi Campbell is one-eighth Chinese. Not one-fourth.


Her maternal grandmother is full blooded Chinese, from what I've read.
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PostPosted: Wed 21 May 2008 00:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

pennypincha wrote:
NOOOOOO NOT REDMAN! He
is part asian????, are you saying an asian person had a role in developing his persona. I doubt it Laughing

I found absolutely nothing credable online that says that REDMAN says he is asian. Evil or Very Mad


this is new to me, too.
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PostPosted: Wed 21 May 2008 01:50    Post subject: Well Duh.... Reply with quote

Of course you really can't look at someone and say what percentage they are, I said I think that it is possible for them to have more admixture. Yes I know that all Blacks are not mixed with White (but a very large percentage is, even if it's not that much), you know that!
I disagree, I think a few of them do have European-looking features.
Like all Black people don't look alike, all Whites don't look alike either.
My mother is Asian and my father is a black/white mixture which results in me looking ambiguous (or Hispanic) and neither Asian/Black/White, this could be this case with others. I'm not alone, I can tell you that much.
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PostPosted: Wed 21 May 2008 01:56    Post subject: Redman Reply with quote

About Redman...
You don't think he's Korean because....????
If you look at the Asian boards, you will see us talking about his Korean heritage and besides, you just can't really look at someone and dispute what they claim to be. For this website to be so "open-minded" there are a lot of close minded individuals on here. A large part of the reason why people don't want to align themselves with the multi-racial community is because it seems as if there is interview/requirement process in which one has to "pass" to even call themselves multi-racial. Many people whom are multi-racial aren't claimed by the Black community, nor the multi racial community. If someone says what they are, can't you accept that as that?
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PostPosted: Wed 21 May 2008 01:57    Post subject: .... Reply with quote

I had no idea that this would spark such a conversation.
I was just reppin' the Blasians here!
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PostPosted: Wed 21 May 2008 04:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

mulan wrote:
anonymouse wrote:
mulan wrote:

Sean Paul, Jamaican born Reggeaton pioneer (part Chinese, Irish, German, and African)


Sean Paul is neither a reggaeton artist nor a pioneer of any type of music.


No? Well, what is he, then?


He is a reggae, specifically a dancehall artist. Reggaeton is an entirely different music genre which originally took clues from reggae music but it eventually evolved into something entirely different. Additionally it is mostly sung/rapped to in Spanish and/or Spanglish.

Sean Paul is also not a pioneer because his sound was influenced and sounds very similar to another dancehall artist named Supercat. Sean Paul has said that as a youth he greatly admired Supercat and as he developed his own style he emulated him.


Supercat - Don Dada

Supercat - Cry Fi Di Youth

Sean Paul - Gimme The Light

Sean Paul - Like Glue


Do you hear the similarities in their styles?


Here are a couple reggaeton examples

Tego Calderon - Cosa Buena

Daddy Yankee - Gasolina

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See/hear the difference?
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PostPosted: Wed 21 May 2008 04:56    Post subject: Re: Redman Reply with quote

msmochachina wrote:
About Redman...
You don't think he's Korean because....????
If you look at the Asian boards, you will see us talking about his Korean heritage and besides, you just can't really look at someone and dispute what they claim to be. For this website to be so "open-minded" there are a lot of close minded individuals on here. A large part of the reason why people don't want to align themselves with the multi-racial community is because it seems as if there is interview/requirement process in which one has to "pass" to even call themselves multi-racial. Many people whom are multi-racial aren't claimed by the Black community, nor the multi racial community. If someone says what they are, can't you accept that as that?


I've noticed this, too. I totally agree and am glad you stated so.
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PostPosted: Wed 21 May 2008 14:39    Post subject: Re: Redman Reply with quote

msmochachina wrote:
About Redman...
You don't think he's Korean because....????
If you look at the Asian boards, you will see us talking about his Korean heritage and besides, you just can't really look at someone and dispute what they claim to be. For this website to be so "open-minded" there are a lot of close minded individuals on here. A large part of the reason why people don't want to align themselves with the multi-racial community is because it seems as if there is interview/requirement process in which one has to "pass" to even call themselves multi-racial. Many people whom are multi-racial aren't claimed by the Black community, nor the multi racial community. If someone says what they are, can't you accept that as that?


I've seen NO where that redman himself claimed a Korean hertitage, do you have a source?
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PostPosted: Wed 21 May 2008 20:11    Post subject: Re: Well Duh.... Reply with quote

msmochachina wrote:
Of course you really can't look at someone and say what percentage they are, I said I think that it is possible for them to have more admixture. Yes I know that all Blacks are not mixed with White (but a very large percentage is, even if it's not that much), you know that!
I disagree, I think a few of them do have European-looking features.
Like all Black people don't look alike, all Whites don't look alike either.
My mother is Asian and my father is a black/white mixture which results in me looking ambiguous (or Hispanic) and neither Asian/Black/White, this could be this case with others. I'm not alone, I can tell you that much.


Ok, I guess some of the ones you named (specifically Krystal Kay) do have tri-racial features. And after looking at more pics tara reid, I think she looks completely Asian. Go figure.

However, I still think that many "Euro-looking features" are not exclusively European, though they might be more common in Europeans.
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PostPosted: Fri 23 May 2008 02:50    Post subject: Sharon Leal Reply with quote

Sharon Leal is 50% Filipino!

I will find the article that I read...well no, since you guys are soooooooooo smart, maybe you should find it yourselves

Her mother whom was born in the Philippines had her by an American solider (Black, I guess you already knew that), and then he left her mother.
She later remarried to a Filipino man and they moved to the U.S,
I take it as, people have to claim she's only 25% because she looks "more Black", you guys make me ill.
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PostPosted: Fri 23 May 2008 02:53    Post subject: Re: Redman Reply with quote

pennypincha wrote:
msmochachina wrote:
About Redman...
You don't think he's Korean because....????
If you look at the Asian boards, you will see us talking about his Korean heritage and besides, you just can't really look at someone and dispute what they claim to be. For this website to be so "open-minded" there are a lot of close minded individuals on here. A large part of the reason why people don't want to align themselves with the multi-racial community is because it seems as if there is interview/requirement process in which one has to "pass" to even call themselves multi-racial. Many people whom are multi-racial aren't claimed by the Black community, nor the multi racial community. If someone says what they are, can't you accept that as that?


I've seen NO where that redman himself claimed a Korean hertitage, do you have a source?



He mentioned being Korean one of his myspace blogs about a year ago.
Yes, this was HIS page (with out any imposters), I take it as you are not a Hip Hop fan. Just about anyone whom listens to his music (not just songs on the radio, but full albums) has heard him mention his Asian heritage on a few of his tracks. The Asian communities already know and accept this, I can't say much about the "BlacK" and "Multi- Racial" sites.
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PostPosted: Fri 23 May 2008 13:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

fwsweet wrote:
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According to VH1 their parents were originally from Tonga

Interesting. Tonga is definitiely Polynesian by culture/language, but it is a long way from Hawaii. As I recall, Tongans have some detectable Melanesian admixture, which Hawaiians do not. Since Melanesians have dark skin tone and curly hair*, this slight admixture may be why the Jets are seen as part A-A.

*Curiously, Melanesian children are often blonde until puberty.


They are also Mormons I believe, like many Polynesians.
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PostPosted: Sat 31 May 2008 21:45    Post subject: Re: Sharon Leal Reply with quote

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Sharon Leal is 50% Filipino!

I will find the article that I read...well no, since you guys are soooooooooo smart, maybe you should find it yourselves

Her mother whom was born in the Philippines had her by an American solider (Black, I guess you already knew that), and then he left her mother.
She later remarried to a Filipino man and they moved to the U.S,
I take it as, people have to claim she's only 25% because she looks "more Black", you guys make me ill.


I believe it is her father who is Filipino. Not sure though.
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PostPosted: Sat 31 May 2008 21:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kamala Harris, First district attorney in California of Asian descent (part East Indian, part Afro-Jamaican)


If I'm not mistaken she is of Jamaican parentage but with parents of African and East Indian ancestry.


Quote:
Michael Lee-Chin, Jamaican businessman (part Chinese, part Black)


Both of his parents are of African and Chinese ancestry
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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jun 2008 00:48    Post subject: Re: I meant Reply with quote

Helena21 wrote:
msmochachina wrote:
I meant I suspect Euro admixture from their Black (maybe even Asian side).
Since all of these Blasians have one Black American parent, and many Black Americans have mixed blood (either Euro or Indigenous) I assume that they are more mixed than just Asian/Black. Eespecially Crystal Kay and Tashannie, they can pass for mulatto.


They don't look mulatto at all! They don't even look like they have any white ancestry. They look half Asian half Black to me. I've seen girls that are half Ghanian half Malaysian that look like Crystal Kay and Tashannie. Not every Black American has white admixture you know. Stop with all the idiotic assuming. It's annoying. Rolling Eyes


Please don't allow your annoyance to allow for subtle name calling. Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jun 2008 00:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rozonda "Chilli" Thomas, American singer and part of the group TLC (part Iranian, Amerindian, and African-American)


I don't think Chili would fall under a blasian ethnic mix
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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jun 2008 00:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

mulan wrote:
Helena21 wrote:
Mulan, again you've got your imformation wrong.
-Sharon Leal is 1/4 Filipino,
-Tai Babilonia is 1/2 African-American, 1/4 Filipina, and 1/4 Native American (Hopi tribe). Tai, herself, confirmed this on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" and "E!True Hollywood Story"
- Sean Paul is part Chinese, part Portuguese(NOT German), part African
- Nicole Scherzinger is EURASIAN, not Blasian

And lastly, why are you posting pics of people who are a mix of black, white, and Native American?? This is the BLASIAN thread! Native Americans are their own ethnic group and should not be confused with the Asians of the East or the South


Ok, take it with a grain of salt; and thanks for the dispute of validity! I'm no official source. And where are your sources?

And I know this is a Blasian thread, but the entire forum is about diversity. Many Blasians are more than just of Asian and African descent. Why not consider the rest of what they're mixed with? What's so bad about that?



1.2 Either Teach or Learn. — Learners ask questions, challenge assumptions, request sources, and compare different interpretations to arrive at new knowledge about U.S. racialism. Teachers answer questions, defend or clarify assumptions, provide sources, and offer different interpretations about U.S. racialism. Most members perform both roles. Your every message should seek either to inform or to become informed.

1.2.1 As a Learner, Demand Sources. — If you think that someone is in error, ask them to cite their sources. If they just re-state an unsubstantiated opinion, report the message number to a moderator.

1.2.2 As a Teacher, Offer Sources. — When presenting something potentially controversial, it is good form to cite your sources before being asked. If you fail to cite sources before being asked you may be seen as careless. But whatever you do, do not fail to cite sources after being asked. Not once. (See 3.2 for details.)


This maybe only on famous people but we should still try to post correct information and correct what may be mistaken, Don't get upset if someone challenges something you post. the Challenger also does not have to aggitated or agrivated.
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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jun 2008 01:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helena21 wrote:
Mulan, again you've got your imformation wrong.
-Sharon Leal is 1/4 Filipino,
-Tai Babilonia is 1/2 African-American, 1/4 Filipina, and 1/4 Native American (Hopi tribe). Tai, herself, confirmed this on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" and "E!True Hollywood Story"
- Sean Paul is part Chinese, part Portuguese(NOT German), part African
- Nicole Scherzinger is EURASIAN, not Blasian

And lastly, why are you posting pics of people who are a mix of black, white, and Native American?? This is the BLASIAN thread! Native Americans are their own ethnic group and should not be confused with the Asians of the East or the South


Helena21 it's not that serious, just add the correction.
How you type something (unless that is your intentions) will cause someone to get on the defense. We don't to do that here. You could have just typed your corrections
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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jun 2008 11:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

gemini072 wrote:
Helena21 wrote:
Mulan, again you've got your imformation wrong.
-Sharon Leal is 1/4 Filipino,
-Tai Babilonia is 1/2 African-American, 1/4 Filipina, and 1/4 Native American (Hopi tribe). Tai, herself, confirmed this on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" and "E!True Hollywood Story"
- Sean Paul is part Chinese, part Portuguese(NOT German), part African
- Nicole Scherzinger is EURASIAN, not Blasian

And lastly, why are you posting pics of people who are a mix of black, white, and Native American?? This is the BLASIAN thread! Native Americans are their own ethnic group and should not be confused with the Asians of the East or the South


Helena21 it's not that serious, just add the correction.
How you type something (unless that is your intentions) will cause someone to get on the defense. We don't want to do that here. You could have just typed your corrections



It's all good, I simply removed the fractions and put 'part', instead. I don't have time to go get solid sources for all, these are mostly found scouring through the net on message boards and wikipedia - which tend to be unreliable themselves.

I'll make sure to do a better job on 'that' from here on out.
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