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PostPosted: Fri 14 Nov 2008 14:13    Post subject: Priest: No communion for Obama supporters Reply with quote

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Priest: No communion for Obama supporters
Priest says it's because the Democratic president-elect supports abortion

updated 6:45 p.m. ET, Thurs., Nov. 13, 2008
COLUMBIA, S.C. - A South Carolina Roman Catholic priest has told his parishioners that they should refrain from receiving Holy Communion if they voted for Barack Obama because the Democratic president-elect supports abortion, and supporting him "constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil."

The Rev. Jay Scott Newman said in a letter distributed Sunday to parishioners at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville that they are putting their souls at risk if they take Holy Communion before doing penance for their vote.

"Our nation has chosen for its chief executive the most radical pro-abortion politician ever to serve in the United States Senate or to run for president," Newman wrote, referring to Obama by his full name, including his middle name of Hussein.

"Voting for a pro-abortion politician when a plausible pro-life alternative exits constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil, and those Catholics who do so place themselves outside of the full communion of Christ's Church and under the judgment of divine law. Persons in this condition should not receive Holy Communion until and unless they are reconciled to God in the Sacrament of Penance, lest they eat and drink their own condemnation."

Risking their immortal soul
During the 2008 presidential campaign, many bishops spoke out on abortion more boldly than four years earlier, telling Catholic politicians and voters that the issue should be the most important consideration in setting policy and deciding which candidate to back. A few church leaders said parishioners risked their immortal soul by voting for candidates who support abortion rights.

But bishops differ on whether Catholic lawmakers — and voters — should refrain from receiving Communion if they diverge from church teaching on abortion. Each bishop sets policy in his own diocese. In their annual fall meeting, the nation's Catholic bishops vowed Tuesday to forcefully confront the Obama administration over its support for abortion rights.

According to national exit polls, 54 percent of Catholics chose Obama, who is Protestant. In South Carolina, which McCain carried, voters in Greenville County — traditionally seen as among the state's most conservative areas — went 61 percent for the Republican, and 37 percent for Obama.

"It was not an attempt to make a partisan point," Newman said in a telephone interview Thursday. "In fact, in this election, for the sake of argument, if the Republican candidate had been pro-abortion, and the Democratic candidate had been pro-life, everything that I wrote would have been exactly the same."

Conservative Catholics criticized Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry in 2004 for supporting abortion rights, with a few Catholic bishops saying Kerry should refrain from receiving Holy Communion because his views were contrary to church teachings.

Some say move is too extreme
Sister Mary Ann Walsh, spokeswoman for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said she had not heard of other churches taking this position in reaction to Obama's win. A Boston-based group that supports Catholic Democrats questioned the move, saying it was too extreme.

"Father Newman is off-base," said Steve Krueger, national director of Catholic Democrats. "He is acting beyond the authority of a parish priest to say what he did. ... Unfortunately, he is doing so in a manner that will be of great cost to those parishioners who did vote for Sens. Obama and Biden. There will be a spiritual cost to them for his words."

A man who has attended St. Mary's for 18 years said he welcomed Newman's message and anticipated it would inspire further discussion at the church.

"I don't understand anyone who would call themselves a Christian, let alone a Catholic, and could vote for someone who's a pro-abortion candidate," said Ted Kelly, 64, who volunteers his time as lector for the church. "You're talking about the murder of innocent beings."
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Nov 2008 14:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

That guy is extremist...if the clergy in AMerica supported that, about 1/2 of Catholics (maybe over half) could not get communion. He can do what he wants in his little parish, he has no clout...he is like a right wing Father Flager. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Nov 2008 14:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two things:

1) The separation of church and state is a very very good thing.

2) Maybe he can do this in South Carolina without backlash from his congregants. If he said those things in those exact terms as a parish priest in Chicago or Milwaukee I suspect he would not have much of a congregation the next week.
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Nov 2008 14:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking about this a little more, this guy is just lashing out in anger in response to the impotence he and the outspoken anti-obama bishops must feel after more than half of catholics voted for the guy they all but told them they couldn't.
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Nov 2008 16:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

MisterLawyer wrote:
The separation of church and state is a very very good thing.

Several years ago, the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of PR formed its own political party. During the campaign they had all the priests read a policy that anyone who failed to vote for their party could no longer receive communion and that anyone who publicly spoke in favor of any other party would be excommunicated.

They were ignored, of course, and people continued going to church.

It has always struck me a characteristic of Hispanic (and Italian) catholicism, that they are passionately devoted to the Church but look down contemptuously at priests and bishops as being mere tools of the powerful. (See Robert Anthony Orsi, The Madonna of 115th Street: Faith and Community in Italian Harmlem, 1880-1950 (New Haven: Yale University, 1985) for a parallel analysis of turn-of-the-20th-century Italian-American attitudes towards the Church.)
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