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gemini072
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 Posted: Mon 19 Jan 2009 07:17 Post subject: What About the Children? |
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I wonder how do Obama's daughters see themselves in terms of racial identification? To me they are just as mixed appearing as their father. Having a biracial(black identified) father, had a white grandmother, an aunt who is Hapa(?) and cousins who are 1/3rd (white) 2/3rds (Polynesian) Makes for a very interesting family life.
A lot of times people focus on the (quadroon) children of biracials(mulattoes) not as much on the (marabou) children.
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Famu
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| Posted: Mon 19 Jan 2009 10:20 Post subject: Re: What About the Children? |
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gemini072"I wonder how do Obama's daughters see themselves in terms of racial identification? To me they are just as mixed appearing as their father. Having a biracial(black identified) father, had a white grandmother, an aunt who is Hapa(?) and cousins who are 1/3rd (white) 2/3rds (Polynesian) Makes for a very interesting family life.
A lot of times people focus on the (quadroon) children of biracials(mulattoes) not as much on the (marabou) children.
I would guess the kids see themselves as black. A lot of people do. |
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sagascend
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| In my experience, mixed children like the Obama girls "don't count" because both of their parents are Black-identified and mixed, a notion I think is quite ridiculous. It's almost as if their ancestral diversity shouldn't matter to them, when the opposite makes much more sense. They are faced with more diversity/identity complexities than many Americans with cross-color line parents, which leads me to believe that they will (or have) also examined their own identification. |
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gemini072
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| Posted: Mon 19 Jan 2009 17:50 Post subject: Re: What About the Children? |
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[quote="Famu"] | gemini072 wrote: | I wonder how do Obama's daughters see themselves in terms of racial identification? To me they are just as mixed appearing as their father. Having a biracial(black identified) father, had a white grandmother, an aunt who is Hapa(?) and cousins who are 1/3rd (white) 2/3rds (Polynesian) Makes for a very interesting family life.
A lot of times people focus on the (quadroon) children of biracials(mulattoes) not as much on the (marabou) children.
I would guess the kids see themselves as black. A lot of people do. |
Why would U guess that?
You don't think having the ethnic background and family relations they have wouldn't cause them to begin to formulate an 'other' identity?
I had one from my parents and that was the 70's/80's.
The question never included how U see them or how anyone else sees them. I don't see them as 'black' I don't mean black in the 1Drop sense, when I ask this question.
Historically they wouldn't have been seen as black or negre. But in Creole Louisianna they would be 'marabou' or mulatta. Sambo(a) or Mulatta in other parts of American states.
I specifically titled it "What About The Children?" Because that was/is a common question asked when dealing with interracial couples and them having children. |
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| Posted: Mon 19 Jan 2009 21:38 Post subject: |
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| sagascend wrote: | | In my experience, mixed children like the Obama girls "don't count" because both of their parents are Black-identified and mixed, a notion I think is quite ridiculous. It's almost as if their ancestral diversity shouldn't matter to them, when the opposite makes much more sense. They are faced with more diversity/identity complexities than many Americans with cross-color line parents, which leads me to believe that they will (or have) also examined their own identification. |
I agree. People get so hung up on appearances and labels, but nothing can negate the fact that they (Sasha and Malia) have blood relatives, who they have known/know, whose appearance and label are nothing like theirs. Our families shape our experiences and our view of our selves, regardless of how we look or what we call ourselves.. |
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Famu
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| Posted: Wed 21 Jan 2009 05:37 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | You don't think having the ethnic background and family relations they have wouldn't cause them to begin to formulate an 'other' identity?
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No, not really. My immediate family is similar to the Obama family (black, white, Asian, Native American, international) and I identify as black. Will the Obama girls? I don't know. But it's not automatic. |
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