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PostPosted: Fri 08 May 2009 01:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

Metis wrote:
I'm a redhead, too. Even when I little, people would ask my Mom did she dye my hair! Really now! People seldom believe it's mine since I'm not white. I've got copper/orange-reddish skin and freckles, too. It's a rather unique combination.

Now that is interesting. Could I possibly persuade you to post a photo in the"Family Photos" forum? The forum is not visible to guests or lurkers. It appears only the screens of members. The reason I ask is because the MC1R-314 genetic variant that produces red hair and freckles is found around the world (although it is most common in the British Isles). But when it appears in Africans, it usually goes unnoticed because the skin is too dark for the freckles to be visible and the hair is too black for the reddish pigment to be visible either. People of partial African ancestry where the MC1R-314 traits are visible are relatively rare.
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PostPosted: Fri 08 May 2009 06:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

fwsweet wrote:
Metis wrote:
I'm a redhead, too. Even when I little, people would ask my Mom did she dye my hair! Really now! People seldom believe it's mine since I'm not white. I've got copper/orange-reddish skin and freckles, too. It's a rather unique combination.

Now that is interesting. Could I possibly persuade you to post a photo in the"Family Photos" forum? The forum is not visible to guests or lurkers. It appears only the screens of members. The reason I ask is because the MC1R-314 genetic variant that produces red hair and freckles is found around the world (although it is most common in the British Isles). But when it appears in Africans, it usually goes unnoticed because the skin is too dark for the freckles to be visible and the hair is too black for the reddish pigment to be visible either. People of partial African ancestry where the MC1R-314 traits are visible are relatively rare.


Oddily enough, my AA aunt has the same features; full of freckles plus red hair.
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PostPosted: Fri 08 May 2009 07:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooh! I take the worst photos... Embarassed

I will try to dig up something decent...or take my camera out and take a picture (ugh).

I'd almost rather you drive up the coast since you're right down the road and take a look at me in person! Then we could treat you to some lunch...

I've read some information on the MCR1-314 gene. It is very interesting how the gene can have varying strengths of expression. I had always wondered how some brunettes or even blondes ended up with freckles. But isn't the appearance of the MCR1-314 gene outside of European populations considered a new or separate mutation instead of a case of genes being passes on?

There is a small cluster of red heads on my mother's side. My mother's mother (who was often mistaken for white), at least 3 cousins on my mother's side, and one on my father's. My grandmother and my father's cousin would have more chestnut hair with auburn highlights.

The freckling shows up a lot more than the red hair--almost all of my aunts, uncles, and my mother were freckled even though none are red haired. There's also a cluster for light or at least, hazel eyes. My mother's eyes were grey ringed with brown and green--extremely unusual. Strangely enough, they are more freckled than I am! I only have them on my face but they are freckled on face and body. I find it kind of odd because my grandmother was one of the few in her family that didn't marry another 'mulatto'--my grandfather was a very dark-skinned man. He didn't appear to have any other blood except for AA and yet most of the kids are freckled. Very Happy

It is truly amazing what surprises we have wrapped up in our genes.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 May 2009 04:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay--you can go take a look under Metis' Hair but could someone please re-size my picture? I'm not sure I know how plus I've got to put babykins back to sleep. G'night everyone!
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PostPosted: Wed 13 May 2009 15:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have information on Idi Amin's or at least Forest Whitaker's comment from The Last King of Scotland?

Idi Amin: You are British.

Nicholas Garrigan: Scottish. I am Scottish.

Idi Amin: Scottish? Ha! Ha! Why didn't you say so?... Great soldiers. Very brave. And good people. Completely. let me tell you, if I could be anything instead of a Ugandan, I would be a Scot.

Nicholas Garrigan: Right... Really?

Idi Amin: He. Except for the red hair, which I'm sure is attractive to your women, but which we Africans, we find is quite disgusting.


I am not suggesting that red hair is disgusting I am just curious about West African perceptions.
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PostPosted: Wed 13 May 2009 15:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have information on Idi Amin's or at least Forest Whitaker's comment from The Last King of Scotland?

Idi Amin: You are British.

Nicholas Garrigan: Scottish. I am Scottish.

Idi Amin: Scottish? Ha! Ha! Why didn't you say so?... Great soldiers. Very brave. And good people. Completely. let me tell you, if I could be anything instead of a Ugandan, I would be a Scot.

Nicholas Garrigan: Right... Really?

Idi Amin: He. Except for the red hair, which I'm sure is attractive to your women, but which we Africans, we find is quite disgusting.


I am not suggesting that red hair is disgusting I am just curious about West African perceptions.
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