Posted: Tue 15 Sep 2009 18:15 Post subject: Dying While Black by Verneilla R. Randall
I am new to this site, but not to the study of Racism/White Supremacy. You all have a lot of constructive information on this site. I wanted to add my one cent. I operate a radio program exclusively focused on the System of Racism/White Supremacy. I've had a lot of authors and scholars on my program. I figured I would post a few programs. You all can check them out and perhaps read some of my guests[' work.
The Context of White Supremacy Radio Program
Host: Gus T Renegade & Justice
Guest: Verneilla R. Randall
Link: http://tobtr.com/s/649877
University of Dayton professor Vernellia R. Randall will share her views on the System of White Supremacy . Professor Randall has conducted extensive research on the devastating health ramifications of being black/non-white in a System of White Supremacy. Her book - Dying While Black - exposes the history of White Supremacist health care policies and practices in the United States. We will seek constructive information on what non-white people can do to bolster their health in spite of the System of White Supremacy. Special thanks to professor Dorothy Roberts!
As always, we will attempt to provide constructive information and look forward to taking calls from the listeners. Should be a most interesting program.
Do you have any information on "the devastating health ramifications of being black/non-white in a System of White Supremacy" for groups like Asians or Hispanics? Black and non-white are conflated that's why I asked.
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I' m not an expert on much of anything. But I am aware of information that evidences the adverse health consequences of being non-white in a System of White Supremacy. I have done two programs that focus on the health consequences of being black specifically; however, there is a great deal of overlap. White Supremacist have mistreated other non-whites in many of the same ways they have abused black people. Professor Randall's book and her interview on my program evidence this.
Northwestern University's Dorothy Roberts authored Killing The Black Body. She cites how White Supremacist have abused non-white people in Peru, Puerto Rico and Indonesia. That is non-black, non-white people in Puerto Rico who were subjected to intense sterilization programs, similar to what happened in this the United States. She also sites how non-black, non-white people in Indonesia and Peru were coerced and often forced to use the controversial pregnancy inhibitor, Norplant.
Both Professor Randall's and Professor Roberts' programs are linked above.
More information:
Congressmen Joe Wilson's recent outburst during President Obama's presentation was reported to be motivated by Mr. Wilson's belief that Preisdent Obama's health care reform would provide care to "illegal aliens"/so called Mexicans.
Silvia Henriquez recently submitted a report documenting further medical mistreatment of so called Latinas. {http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/09/16/a-look-at-latina-teen-pregnancies-intersections-of-race-gender-and-class/}
I think the health problems the so called Asian people of Japan and Vietnam have experienced as a result of White Supremacist aggression during WWII & the Vietnam War have been thoroughly documented. Nuclear warfare and Agent Orange cause a variety of health problems I been told.
That said... I am not sure what you mean when you say "Black and non-white are conflated". A black person is a non-white person. Verneilla Randall stated that the System of White Supremacy is designed to keep non-white people in poor health. Even though her book focuses on black people, she recognizes that the health of all non-white people suffers as a result of White Supremacy.
I made a point of including all non-whites in the description for the program because I intend to do future programs that explicitly focus on the impact of not being White in a System of White Supremacy. There is loads of new research evidencing that simply being a non-white person has devastating health ramifications. An expert in this field has agreed to come on my program next month. I will make sure to alert everyone here of that program. The Centers for Disease Control has an entire website devoted to health disparities for non-white people. I'd post the link here, but I'm lazy. If you are interested in but unable to locate the site, I will get that information to you.
Does this satisfy your request for information, Mr. G-man?
She cites how White Supremacist have abused non-white people in Peru, Puerto Rico and Indonesia. That is non-black, non-white people in Puerto Rico who were subjected to intense sterilization programs, similar to what happened in this the United States.
I cannot speak to the other references, but I am familiar with Puerto Rico's birth-control programs. Indeed, "the pill" was first tested in PR when I was in high school. Since the 1940s, Puerto Rican leaders have seen unrestrained population growth as a problem. The island's current) population density is as if you put the population of the entire planet into the lower 48.
At one time, family-planning educational programs encouraged poor women to receive free tubal ligations after their first few children, and their husbands to receive free vasectomies. And it is true that in some cases, such "encouragement" was overly zealous to today's sensibilities (especially those of the Catholic Church). But it is false and insulting to compare those family-planning efforts to the U.S. eugenics programs of the progressive era.
But most of all, it is definitely not accurate to portray Puerto Rico's efforts as a white versus not-white thing. Puerto Rico has been self-governing since 1952 and all such efforts were by Puerto Ricans for Puerto Ricans.
Does this satisfy your request for information, Mr. G-man?
Not exactly as it doesn't address my original request, which I must admit I didn't make clear from the outset.
My request was prompted by this statement:
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University of Dayton professor Vernellia R. Randall will share her views on the System of White Supremacy . Professor Randall has conducted extensive research on the devastating health ramifications of being black/non-white in a System of White Supremacy. Her book - Dying While Black - exposes the history of White Supremacist health care policies and practices in the United States.
Putting aside what constitutes White Supremacist health care policies in the U.S., I was wondering if there was any comparative heath care information or statistics for black, Asians, and Hispanics in the U.S. that would give credence to the claim that all of these non-whites significantly suffer health wise from a system of White Supremacy.
From what I've come across here, Asian American women have the highest life expectancy of any ethno/racial group in the U.S. Asian Americans also have lower HIV/AIDS rates that white Americans, which means they have much lower HIV/AIDS rates than African Americans or Hispanics. Further, they are less likely to be obese than non-Asians and have lower rates of hypertension than whites. In comparison, African Americans have significantly higher rates of hypertension than whites. This would suggest that such a system negatively impacts the health, at least in these areas, of blacks, Hispanics, and whites, because all three have higher rates of these health problems than Asian Americans.
But most of all, it is definitely not accurate to portray Puerto Rico's efforts as a white versus not-white thing. Puerto Rico has been self-governing since 1952 and all such efforts were by Puerto Ricans for Puerto Ricans.
I have taken the position that no one is "independent" from the System of White Supremacy. I could be incorrect, but I don't think I am on this issue. If non-white people in Puerto Rico were being subjected to sterilization programs - which they have been according to reports I have read - the White people who practice White Supremacy would be most to blame.
As for "comparative heath care information or statistics for black, Asians, and Hispanics in the U.S. that would give credence to the claim that all of these non-whites significantly suffer health wise from a system of White Supremacy. " Yes there is. As I said, I will have a whole program dedicated to this next month. White people have done a lot of research on this. Tim Wise mentioned this when he was on my program. As I said, I will be sure to let everyone know when this program will air.
I'm not as interested in comparing different non-white groups - although I would be interested to see if there are differences between so called black people and non-black people. But other then that, I'll be concerning myself with health differences between Whites and non-whites.
If non-white people in Puerto Rico were being subjected to sterilization programs - which they have been according to reports I have read - the White people who practice White Supremacy would be most to blame.
But, on what basis can you divide Puerto Ricans into White and non-White? Puerto Rico lacks an endogamous color line. Puerto Ricans come in all skin tones, and siblings often vary across the human spectrum. Although the inhabitants of the island come in all skin tones, there is no White nor Black in the sense of ethnopolitical communities. There is colorism, of course, but the poorest Puerto Ricans (the mountain dwellers most troubled by fecundity) are among the most fair-skinned. You have a distorted view of Puerto Rico. You might as well talk about White Haitians oppressing non-White Haitians, White Venezuelans oppressing non-White Venezuelans, or White Brazilians oppressing non-White Brazilians as talk about White Puerto Ricans oppressing non-White Puerto Ricans. "Race" is simply not seen as White versus non-White in those countries.
Again, colorism? "Yes." A sharp White/non-White endogamous barrier? "No."
Just out of curiosity, do you think that White Pakistanis oppress non-White Pakistanis? What about White Indians, Chinese or Japanese versus non-White Indians, Chinese, or Japanese. Do White Thais oppress non-White Thais? I suggest that your view of the world's ethnic groups is too narrow.
As for "comparative heath care information or statistics for black, Asians, and Hispanics in the U.S. that would give credence to the claim that all of these non-whites significantly suffer health wise from a system of White Supremacy. " Yes there is. As I said, I will have a whole program dedicated to this next month. White people have done a lot of research on this. Tim Wise mentioned this when he was on my program. As I said, I will be sure to let everyone know when this program will air.
The fact that white people have done "a lot of research on this" doesn't refute the information I posted. Tim Wise is not, to my knowledge, an expert on public health with the requisite knowledge to conduct studies into comparative levels of health for different communities in the U.S.
Gus T Renegade wrote:
I'm not as interested in comparing different non-white groups - although I would be interested to see if there are differences between so called black people and non-black people. But other then that, I'll be concerning myself with health differences between Whites and non-whites.
Comparing health statistics of different groups is relevant and not just non-white ones. If you are claiming that a system of white supremacy impacts that health of non-whites and yet Asians, who are non-white, are actually healthier than whites (based on the link I provided), how can this "system" be harmful to the health of all non-whites?