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PostPosted: Fri 16 Oct 2009 02:01    Post subject: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La. Reply with quote

I had to post this and the appropriate forum is not available

Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091015/ap_on_re_us/us_interracial_rebuff



By MARY FOSTER, Associated Press Writer Mary Foster, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 57 mins ago
NEW ORLEANS – A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have. Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.

"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."

Bardwell said he asks everyone who calls about marriage if they are a mixed race couple. If they are, he does not marry them, he said.

Bardwell said he has discussed the topic with blacks and whites, along with witnessing some interracial marriages. He came to the conclusion that most of black society does not readily accept offspring of such relationships, and neither does white society, he said.

"There is a problem with both groups accepting a child from such a marriage," Bardwell said. "I think those children suffer and I won't help put them through it."

If he did an interracial marriage for one couple, he must do the same for all, he said.

"I try to treat everyone equally," he said.

Bardwell estimates that he has refused to marry about four couples during his career, all in the past 2 1/2 years.

Beth Humphrey, 30, and 32-year-old Terence McKay, both of Hammond, say they will consult the U.S. Justice Department about filing a discrimination complaint.

Humphrey, an account manager for a marketing firm, said she and McKay, a welder, just returned to Louisiana. She is white and he is black. She plans to enroll in the University of New Orleans to pursue a masters degree in minority politics.

"That was one thing that made this so unbelievable," she said. "It's not something you expect in this day and age."

Humphrey said she called Bardwell on Oct. 6 to inquire about getting a marriage license signed. She says Bardwell's wife told her that Bardwell will not sign marriage licenses for interracial couples. Bardwell suggested the couple go to another justice of the peace in the parish who agreed to marry them.

"We are looking forward to having children," Humphrey said. "And all our friends and co-workers have been very supportive. Except for this, we're typical happy newlyweds."

"It is really astonishing and disappointing to see this come up in 2009," said American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana attorney Katie Schwartzmann. She said the Supreme Court ruled in 1967 "that the government cannot tell people who they can and cannot marry."

The ACLU sent a letter to the Louisiana Judiciary Committee, which oversees the state justices of the peace, asking them to investigate Bardwell and recommending "the most severe sanctions available, because such blatant bigotry poses a substantial threat of serious harm to the administration of justice."

"He knew he was breaking the law, but continued to do it," Schwartzmann said.

According to the clerk of court's office, application for a marriage license must be made three days before the ceremony because there is a 72-hour waiting period. The applicants are asked if they have previously been married. If so, they must show how the marriage ended, such as divorce.

Other than that, all they need is a birth certificate and Social Security card.

The license fee is $35, and the license must be signed by a Louisiana minister, justice of the peace or judge. The original is returned to the clerk's office.

"I've been a justice of the peace for 34 years and I don't think I've mistreated anybody," Bardwell said. "I've made some mistakes, but you have too. I didn't tell this couple they couldn't get married. I just told them I wouldn't do it."

(This version corrects the date of the Supreme Court ruling.))
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Oct 2009 12:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

He needs to do some jail time.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Oct 2009 13:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of all the problems in Louisiana,real problems like the U.S.gets the money from off shore drilling off LA in the Gulfand LA gets nil due to bad ,dumb, greedy polictians Long and company, of all of the problmes in LA like the levees were faulty surrounding N.O, because bad, dumb, politicians, all of the problmes that LA has like North LA not accepting of the New Orleans which supports the state,
THIS problem of giving marriage licenses to some people and not others,is problem.
Good God. You reallly have to laugh.This JotP,unbelievable.
He just got away with this for so long.

Now,is this legal? Can a Justice of the Peace deny people on how he/she feels? A JotP is a civil servant, correct?
He has had a long time doing this.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Oct 2009 14:37    Post subject: Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La. Reply with quote

gemini072 wrote:
I had to post this and the appropriate forum is not available

Actually, I think that this is the best forum anyway. The issue strikes at the very heart of the U.S. endogamous color line, what it has meant since its invention in 1691, and what it continues to mean today: disapproval of intermarriage across the "racial" divide.

FWIW, Mary Lee watched a TV interview with the prospective groom and reports that he has a strong Spanish accent. This may explain why he was oblivious to both Black and White American's opposition to intermarriage.

As to whether the JP can be subjected to any legal punishment, I doubt it very much. At most, he could be the target of a writ of mandamus civil suit, to get an injunction ordering him to do his job. But such suits are exceedingly hard to win, since they requires one judge to rule that another judge is willfully and without cause refusing to perform a duty. Like most such situations, it will come down to public opinion. If most of Hammond's voters (Black and White) agree that intermarriage is bad, then he is scott free. If most of Hammond's voters are swayed by the disgust against the JP's racialism expressed by national commentators, then he is toast.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Oct 2009 20:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

i posted it in Ethnicity in America


this is a picture of the groom

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct 2009 00:54    Post subject: Bill Burton, WH Deputy Press Secretary, weighs in Reply with quote

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/white-house-weighs-in-on-justice-who-wont-marry-interracial-couples.php?ref=fpb

From seeing him on TV I had wondered about his ethnicity, thinking he could be MGM or first generation biracial; this article answers that question.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct 2009 01:07    Post subject: Re: Bill Burton, WH Deputy Press Secretary, weighs in Reply with quote

kpauljohnson wrote:
From seeing him on TV I had wondered about his ethnicity, thinking he could be MGM or first generation biracial; this article answers that question.

How so? The linked-to article (about the White House press secretary) does not mention the would-be groom's ancestry.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct 2009 02:16    Post subject: Re: Bill Burton, WH Deputy Press Secretary, weighs in Reply with quote

fwsweet wrote:
kpauljohnson wrote:
From seeing him on TV I had wondered about his ethnicity, thinking he could be MGM or first generation biracial; this article answers that question.

How so? The linked-to article (about the White House press secretary) does not mention the would-be groom's ancestry.


By "him" I was referring to Burton who is described as biracial. Perhaps I'm confused about specifying a new "post subject" vs. staying with the existing"thread subject" and leaving "post subject" blank.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct 2009 03:01    Post subject: Re: Bill Burton, WH Deputy Press Secretary, weighs in Reply with quote

kpauljohnson wrote:
By "him" I was referring to Burton who is described as biracial. Perhaps I'm confused about specifying a new "post subject" vs. staying with the existing"thread subject" and leaving "post subject" blank.

Oh. Sorry. My fault. I did not notice your message's subject.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct 2009 05:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read that one in the paper today. Pity. To bad he can't do some time..

Quote:
"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way,"


Gee, how many times have I heard variants of the above quote..Both statements seem quite contradictory...
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct 2009 20:41    Post subject: "I'm not an X, but..." Reply with quote

DucorpsToo wrote:
I read that one in the paper today. Pity. To bad he can't do some time..

Quote:
"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way,"


Gee, how many times have I heard variants of the above quote..Both statements seem quite contradictory...


And it's not just about race. "I'm not a sexist, but woman's place is in the home. I'm not a religious bigot, but Muslims have no place in Congress." And so it goes. People rarely will cop to unflattering descriptions of themselves no matter how blatantly accurate they are.
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Oct 2009 17:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/19/keith-bardwell-explains-r_n_325758.html

This guy sounds like he is not very bright. The governor of Louisiana has called for his punishment and firing.
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