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gemini072
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 Posted: Thu 09 Mar 2006 13:39 Post subject: America's Next Top Model: Wendy Jade & Leslie |
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Wendy: Probably Creole
http://www.upn.com/shows/top_model6/models/wendy.shtml
Age: 22 Height: 5'9" 1/2 Hometown: New Orleans Occupation: Retail Managament Favorite TV Show: Girlfriends Favorite Movie: The Wedding Planner Favorite Magazine: INStyle Favorite Food: Fried Chicken
JADE: Jades mother is what she calls an exotic white woman, her father is Black Native American & White
http://www.upn.com/shows/top_model6/models/jade.shtml
Age: 26 Height: 5'9" Hometown: Philadelphia,PA Occupation: Restaurant Hostess Favorite TV Show: Martin Favorite Movie: Love Jones Favorite Magazine: Suede Favorite Food: Chicken
LESLIE:
http://www.upn.com/shows/top_model6/models/leslie.shtml
Age: 18 Height: 5'10" Hometown: Higly,AZ Occupation: Student Favorite TV Show: Seinfeld Favorite Movie: Gia Favorite Magazine: Cosmopolitan Favorite Food: Asian
Leslie
Jade
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zsana
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| Posted: Thu 09 Mar 2006 15:00 Post subject: |
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I actually watched this show last night.
I think it would be great if Wendy or Leslie won. They both seemed down to eath and nice.
Wasn't it sad how Wendy (I also suspect she is Creole) lost everything in Katrina? Goodness, I think it's great she's moving on with her life.
I couldn't STAND Jade. VERY arrogant. And I don't hardly see why... Each cycle, there seems to be at least one grade A you know what. (Rhymes with witch...) But wait and see, Tyra will break her down till she admits her actual insecurities hidden behind the tough as nails facade.
To be honest, who I'd REALLY like to win is the African girl Nnenna.
She has exquisite bone structure and features, poise, and is very articulate and mature. I think she has a very good chance. |
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gemini072
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| Posted: Thu 09 Mar 2006 15:40 Post subject: |
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| zsana wrote: | I actually watched this show last night.
I think it would be great if Wendy or Leslie won. They both seemed down to eath and nice.
Wasn't it sad how Wendy (I also suspect she is Creole) lost everything in Katrina? Goodness, I think it's great she's moving on with her life.
I really liked Wendy, I was glad Tyra knew more about her sadness than the others who were quick to dismiss her. That's got to be a crazy feeling. I hope she puts her all into this.
I couldn't STAND Jade. VERY arrogant. And I don't hardly see why... Each cycle, there seems to be at least one grade A you know what. (Rhymes with witch...) But wait and see, Tyra will break her down till she admits her actual insecurities hidden behind the tough as nails facade.
lol I know what you mean, I think she is insecure because of her age, she is a beautiful woman with, Humble & Sassy is sexy but like you said the other thing is just not attractive.
To be honest, who I'd REALLY like to win is the African girl Nnenna.
She has exquisite bone structure and features, poise, and is very articulate and mature. I think she has a very good chance. |
Yes, Nnenna(Nigerian) is well put together. Those other girls have to step their game up to compete with her right now.
I like how asian women are EXOTIC and African and Black women are REGAL. I hear those terms used all the time. Not saying I have a problem with it.
This girl (described as Regal as well) has good varsatility as well
I find it interesting how Jade who is a "quadroon' looks very much or more or less blacker than people would expect. Her hair is still very kinky curly. |
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zsana
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| Posted: Thu 09 Mar 2006 16:10 Post subject: |
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Ty wrote: | Quote: | | I find it interesting how Jade who is a "quadroon' looks very much or more or less blacker than people would expect. Her hair is still very kinky curly. |
TRUE. I was thinking the exact same thing... When they showed a picture of her dad, I was shocked that he wasn't darker skinned. Remember when she said her white mom was "exotic"? I'm thinking it's possible she could have distant black and/or native-american ancestry without possibly knowing it. Heck, there are MILLIONS of white Americans who do. Those distant genetic non-white appearance markers could have lined up with her husbands which explains Jades IMO stereotypically first generation black/white biracial look.
But then again Ty, we're judging appearances based on American standards. These are VERY different than the standards held by other nations...
You have to just about look like a tanned skin Caucasian with curly/wavy hair (and preferably light eyes) to even be considered biracial to many. The bar is set VERY high in the U.S. I believe. If you have nappy/extremely curly hair, caramel colored to medium/dark brown skin, at least one identifiable stereotypical "black" facial feature without a Spanish surname, you're pretty much going to be considered straight up black or "light-skinned black" by many.
Like we've discussed here at ODR in the past, hair texture has a great deal to do with ones "racial" perception of others. I think it's the strongest factor in fact. More so even then color.
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ecapajin
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I think Nnenna, the Nigerian girl, proves not all West Africans are very dark ( an almost black skin color.) They come in a varity of shades from meduim brown to almost black and she looks like most African American women. Most West Aficans I know are about her skin color and they are pure Black.
I laugh when dark skinned African Americans think they look different from Blacks in Africa. Most could go there and be mistaken for a native African.
PS Jade is beautiful, I thought she was half Asian and half Black based on her appearance. Both of her parents probably look very exotic. |
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gemini072
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| Posted: Thu 09 Mar 2006 20:11 Post subject: |
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| zsana wrote: | Ty wrote: | Quote: | | I find it interesting how Jade who is a "quadroon' looks very much or more or less blacker than people would expect. Her hair is still very kinky curly. |
TRUE. I was thinking the exact same thing... When they showed a picture of her dad, I was shocked that he wasn't darker skinned. Remember when she said her white mom was "exotic"? I'm thinking it's possible she could have distant black and/or native-american ancestry without possibly knowing it. Heck, there are MILLIONS of white Americans who do. Those distant genetic non-white appearance markers could have lined up with her husbands which explains Jades IMO stereotypically first generation black/white biracial look.
That's true Felicia, or maybe she is an 'ethnic' white, someone with a 'look' French, Portugese, or something like that
But then again Ty, we're judging appearances based on American standards. These are VERY different than the standards held by other nations...
True again, but still in America there is certain expectation of a Mulatto in the 20th century to look a certain way, and a 'quadroon' to look a bit whiter. Probably because a lot of 'African-Americans' have some degree of admixture. But good point
You have to just about look like a tanned skin Caucasian with curly/wavy hair (and preferably light eyes) to even be considered biracial to many. The bar is set VERY high in the U.S. I believe. If you have nappy/extremely curly hair, caramel colored to medium/dark brown skin, at least one identifiable stereotypical "black" facial feature without a Spanish surname, you're pretty much going to be considered straight up black or "light-skinned black" by many.
Like we've discussed here at ODR in the past, hair texture has a great deal to do with ones "racial" perception of others. I think it's the strongest factor in fact. More so even then color. |
True, but her eyes and very high check bones even the full lips and especially the almost kinky, curly hair. Makes me think of someone probably part Asian. They did show a picture of the mother. She did have a more SW european look |
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sweetsister
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| Posted: Tue 14 Mar 2006 00:24 Post subject: Stop it! |
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| "Quadroon" is a very insulting, demeaning "slave-term" used to qualify and define multiethnic people by "pedigree"(like dogs). Stop it! |
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gemini072
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| Posted: Tue 14 Mar 2006 13:44 Post subject: Re: Stop it! |
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| sweetsister wrote: | | "Quadroon" is a very insulting, demeaning "slave-term" used to qualify and define multiethnic people by "pedigree"(like dogs). Stop it! |
Sister you need to calm down. This site isn't just another free for all chat group. We deal with everything from the historic to the present. All the members here know when I used that term I was dealing with someone who is the child of a (biracial:mulattoe) and a (white) which was historically considered a quadroon. That term was not always and only used in the USA slave states. |
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