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  Topic: Hostility to people of some SSA who reject A-A identity
JoshH

Replies: 41
Views: 3186

PostForum: History of the U.S. One-Drop Rule   Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2009 19:48   Subject: Re: "self-preservation"

The descendants of "white" slaves do not have this issue. Nor do the descendants of Chinese exclusion act victims nor Jews, nor other victims of excessive American racism. It would make ...
  Topic: Whites who recently learn of black ancestry and "one drop"
JoshH

Replies: 26
Views: 14703

PostForum: History of the U.S. One-Drop Rule   Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2009 19:10   Subject: Re: Discovered Black Ancestry at 30
I'm one, somewhere between 1/8 and 1/16, and I suspect there are more than a few of us who don't know, because that level of admixture isn't visually identifiable,

According to Frank's book, approx ...
  Topic: Hostility to people of some SSA who reject A-A identity
JoshH

Replies: 41
Views: 3186

PostForum: History of the U.S. One-Drop Rule   Posted: Tue 06 Oct 2009 23:47   Subject: Hostility to people of some SSA who reject A-A identity
Yes, I intended it as an analogy or figurative description, the implication being that if one group hurts another group, the members of the second group are likely to respond in kind.
Your thesis, as ...
  Topic: Hostility to people of some SSA who reject A-A identity
JoshH

Replies: 41
Views: 3186

PostForum: History of the U.S. One-Drop Rule   Posted: Tue 06 Oct 2009 21:12   Subject: Hostility to people of some SSA who reject A-A identity
Yes, I intended it as an analogy or figurative description, the implication being that if one group hurts another group, the members of the second group are likely to respond in kind.
  Topic: Hostility to people of some SSA who reject A-A identity
JoshH

Replies: 41
Views: 3186

PostForum: History of the U.S. One-Drop Rule   Posted: Tue 06 Oct 2009 20:24   Subject: Hostility to people of some SSA who reject A-A identity
I don't think I'd go so far as to offer a free pass, but I'm among those who do make allowances. How could I do otherwise, given the very overt and officially-sanctioned white racism in the United St ...
  Topic: Contemporary Attitudes Towards the One Drop Rule
JoshH

Replies: 58
Views: 3041

PostForum: Issues for Biracial Americans   Posted: Sat 05 Sep 2009 02:17   Subject: Contemporary Attitudes Towards the One Drop Rule
Then I interpreted those comments wrong. You were not meaning to suggest that "whites" were less moral then "blacks" but only to emphasize that the opposite is not the case. Is t ...
  Topic: Contemporary Attitudes Towards the One Drop Rule
JoshH

Replies: 58
Views: 3041

PostForum: Issues for Biracial Americans   Posted: Sat 05 Sep 2009 01:51   Subject: Contemporary Attitudes Towards the One Drop Rule
while whites, who gave us Auschwitz, sold people at auction, and some of the wealthiest of whom are currently robbing the American public blind are not.

As far as I can tell, amorality is found in ...
  Topic: Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Arrested for Disorderly Conduct
JoshH

Replies: 133
Views: 4551

PostForum: Improving U.S. Society   Posted: Sat 01 Aug 2009 14:26   Subject: Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Arrested for Disorderly Conduct

Black people need to roar out their anger at such treatment, lift up their voices and demand change. Anyone counseling a less militant approach is counseling self-defeat. As of mid-2008, there were ...
  Topic: Antebellum racialism, North and South
JoshH

Replies: 18
Views: 509

PostForum: History of the U.S. Color Line   Posted: Thu 30 Jul 2009 23:47   Subject: Antebellum racialism, North and South
From this, Americans conclude that the root of U.S. racialism is slavery, and that the color line itself was and is A Good Thing.


Gallup's recent Minority Rights and Relations survey updated a lo ...
  Topic: Antebellum racialism, North and South
JoshH

Replies: 18
Views: 509

PostForum: History of the U.S. Color Line   Posted: Thu 30 Jul 2009 23:40   Subject: Antebellum racialism, North and South
couldn't it be said that a) theories of racial inferiority were developed or seized upon in part to provide justification for the Atlantic slave trade and b) that the racism of some white Americans wa ...
  Topic: Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Arrested for Disorderly Conduct
JoshH

Replies: 133
Views: 4551

PostForum: Improving U.S. Society   Posted: Thu 30 Jul 2009 14:38   Subject: Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Arrested for Disorderly Conduct
Given that fact, I find the notion that some perceptions of this case have not been subjectively influenced to be ludicrous. Even those who support the actions of Crowley have offered up subjective r ...
  Topic: Antebellum racialism, North and South
JoshH

Replies: 18
Views: 509

PostForum: History of the U.S. Color Line   Posted: Thu 30 Jul 2009 14:13   Subject: Antebellum racialism, North and South
I *am* like everyone aware that for example the North abolished slavery years before the South.... Are you suggesting that subtler historical phenomena outweigh these obvious historical differences?
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  Topic: Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Arrested for Disorderly Conduct
JoshH

Replies: 133
Views: 4551

PostForum: Improving U.S. Society   Posted: Wed 29 Jul 2009 20:42   Subject: Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Arrested for Disorderly Conduct

Whose reputation? I assume you mean the caller's. If yes, her reputation, such as it was, wasn't harmed seriously. A simple apology to her for the oversight, assuming it is, would be in order.
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  Topic: Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Arrested for Disorderly Conduct
JoshH

Replies: 133
Views: 4551

PostForum: Improving U.S. Society   Posted: Wed 29 Jul 2009 19:59   Subject: Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Arrested for Disorderly Conduct


Needless to say, the caller's personal statement ads further credence to the possibility that the police report contains a misrepresentation. If that is true, the only apology here should come fr ...
  Topic: Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Arrested for Disorderly Conduct
JoshH

Replies: 133
Views: 4551

PostForum: Improving U.S. Society   Posted: Wed 29 Jul 2009 19:55   Subject: Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Arrested for Disorderly Conduct
Does this mean that you now apologize and retract your earlier accusations that she was guilty of "racial profiling?" Just curious.
If I'd made such an accusation, I would apologize....
I ...
  Topic: Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Arrested for Disorderly Conduct
JoshH

Replies: 133
Views: 4551

PostForum: Improving U.S. Society   Posted: Wed 29 Jul 2009 19:36   Subject: Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Arrested for Disorderly Conduct
It seems that the woman who made the call has now said that she never mentioned race to the officer:...
Does this mean that you now apologize and retract your earlier accusations that she was guilty ...
  Topic: Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Arrested for Disorderly Conduct
JoshH

Replies: 133
Views: 4551

PostForum: Improving U.S. Society   Posted: Wed 29 Jul 2009 17:52   Subject: Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Arrested for Disorderly Conduct
It seems that the woman who made the call has now said that she never mentioned race to the officer:


CAMBRIDGE, Mass. — Lucia Whalen, whose 911 call led to the arrest of the Harvard professor Hen ...
  Topic: Antebellum racialism, North and South
JoshH

Replies: 18
Views: 509

PostForum: History of the U.S. Color Line   Posted: Wed 29 Jul 2009 15:25   Subject: Antebellum racialism, North and South

Because the north was more tolerant. ...
I think that JoshH is relating to his own personal experiences, or those told to him by his parents and grandparents. Most people have no grasp of the past. ...
  Topic: Antebellum racialism, North and South
JoshH

Replies: 18
Views: 509

PostForum: History of the U.S. Color Line   Posted: Wed 29 Jul 2009 14:40   Subject: Antebellum racialism, North and South

Oh, please. So you have a National Identity Card and then if need be you check that your name and card-ID in any other document matches your Card's name and card-ID, and that the Card's photo matche ...
  Topic: Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Arrested for Disorderly Conduct
JoshH

Replies: 133
Views: 4551

PostForum: Improving U.S. Society   Posted: Wed 29 Jul 2009 00:57   Subject: Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Arrested for Disorderly Conduct
It is a straw man argument to criticize my usage of the term "race card" as a means of avoiding the discussion that we are having.
That is inaccurate. Please refrain in the future from impu ...
 
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