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  Topic: Zanzibar and slavery
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PostForum: International Stories   Posted: Fri 20 Nov 2009 02:31   Subject: Zanzibar and slavery
the results, like in the nonHispanic Caribbean, have adopted an identity which separates them from the non mixed (or minimally mixed) Africans.
Are you implying that Hispanic Caribbeans have NOT &quo ...
  Topic: Race-based clubs see revival in Cuba
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PostForum: Latin America   Posted: Fri 20 Nov 2009 02:19   Subject: Race-based clubs see revival in Cuba
If blacks and mulattos are the same why not use one description, blacks, as in the USA.
I neither know nore care why the book reviewer repeatedly lumped the terms together. The point is that there wa ...
  Topic: What Influences Dominican Self Identity?
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PostForum: Caribbean Basin   Posted: Fri 20 Nov 2009 02:11   Subject: What Influences Dominican Self Identity?
Are you suggesting that there isnt some colorism in the DR and that those closest to the European look dont have better opportunities for upward mobility within the private sector especially with thos ...
  Topic: Race-based clubs see revival in Cuba
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PostForum: Latin America   Posted: Thu 19 Nov 2009 22:48   Subject: Race-based clubs see revival in Cuba
The first source references struggles of blacks AND mulattos in the early 20th century and a political party they established. This seems to indicate an ethnopolitical group identity that manifested i ...
  Topic: What Influences Dominican Self Identity?
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PostForum: Caribbean Basin   Posted: Thu 19 Nov 2009 20:56   Subject: What Influences Dominican Self Identity?
G-man and Cimmerian: The last two posts are not about Dominican ethnopolitcal self-identity, but instead are about ascribed identity. That is, others' perceptions of DR identity. If you want to expand ...
  Topic: What Influences Dominican Self Identity?
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PostForum: Caribbean Basin   Posted: Thu 19 Nov 2009 19:24   Subject: What Influences Dominican Self Identity?
the numbers could very well be 62% & 70% respectively.
Of course. And they could very well not be. The numbers might be 61 or 63 or 69 or 71 or 3.1415926. That is the point. If you cite numbers i ...
  Topic: What Influences Dominican Self Identity?
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PostForum: Caribbean Basin   Posted: Thu 19 Nov 2009 16:34   Subject: What Influences Dominican Self Identity?
Well on behalf of the many West Indians of East Indian, Chinese, European, Amerindian and mixed ancestry you are wrong. In fcat Trinidad is 62% NON African identifying and Guyana 70%. The other islan ...
  Topic: Race-based clubs see revival in Cuba
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PostForum: Latin America   Posted: Thu 19 Nov 2009 16:24   Subject: Race-based clubs see revival in Cuba
Please provide a source for the claim of a three-caste society in Cuba. I have never seen any objective evidence of such a thing, neither in restrictive laws nor in genetic discontinuity. See, for exa ...
  Topic: Race-based clubs see revival in Cuba
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PostForum: Latin America   Posted: Wed 18 Nov 2009 15:00   Subject: Race-based clubs see revival in Cuba
So an ethnopolitical group identity devloped
Please provide a source for the claim of a three-caste society in Cuba. I have never seen any objective evidence of such a thing, neither in restrictive ...
  Topic: Hostility to people of some SSA who reject A-A identity
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PostForum: History of the U.S. One-Drop Rule   Posted: Wed 18 Nov 2009 04:21   Subject: Re: DNA
I think it would be rather difficult to conduct a study on class as it relates to SSA admixture in the African American community simply because there isn't a clear definition of class in the U.S.. W ...
  Topic: Hostility to people of some SSA who reject A-A identity
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PostForum: History of the U.S. One-Drop Rule   Posted: Tue 17 Nov 2009 16:50   Subject: Re: DNA
Are there any studies taking class and/or region into account?
No studies as to class that I am aware of. Of course, new studies are always being done.

Regarding A-A regional variation, the nation ...
  Topic: Race-based clubs see revival in Cuba
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PostForum: Latin America   Posted: Tue 17 Nov 2009 16:41   Subject: Race-based clubs see revival in Cuba
FWIW. In a scholarly sense, I am not an expert on either Cuba or the DR. But all of the Cuban and Dominican families that Mary Lee and I have befriended seem to have the same "racial" attitu ...
  Topic: Hostility to people of some SSA who reject A-A identity
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PostForum: History of the U.S. One-Drop Rule   Posted: Tue 17 Nov 2009 00:18   Subject: Hostility to people of some SSA who reject A-A identity
I agree that F. James Davis, Who is Black?: One Nation's Definition (University Park PA: State University of Pennsylvania, 1991) is an outstanding book. Bear in mind, however, that it is not the best ...
  Topic: South African Coloureds
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PostForum: Molecular Anthropology and Genetics   Posted: Tue 17 Nov 2009 00:10   Subject: Re: A bit of a correction or more accurate info.
All african americans do not have white genes.
The great majority of African Americans do carry Euro DNA markers. I think what you meant to say was "Not all African Americans have White genes (m ...
  Topic: New Members, Please Read This
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PostForum: Site Management   Posted: Mon 16 Nov 2009 23:00   Subject: New Members, Please Read This
I am very glad I found this forum. After researching various elements of Anglo/mestizo intermarriage, Mexican immigration to the US and attitudes towards color and economic class in both Mexico and th ...
  Topic: New Members, Please Read This
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PostForum: Site Management   Posted: Mon 16 Nov 2009 02:55   Subject: Re: Chumash Origins, and the Maya, Olmec Cultures ...
haku Frank,

a Chumash 'hello' from Central California.

a post by "odocoileus", found through a google search, led me here in my beginnings of explorations of the origins of the Chumash ...
  Topic: Awareness Of Racism Affects Children
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PostForum: History of the U.S. Color Line   Posted: Sat 14 Nov 2009 12:04   Subject: Awareness Of Racism Affects Children
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  Topic: Report again slams Dominican 'racism'...
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PostForum: Latin America   Posted: Sat 14 Nov 2009 11:56   Subject: Report again slams Dominican 'racism'...
Gentlemen, please. This thread is going nowhere. I am stopping it now. The issue of whether DR-born offspring of illegal immigrants are citizens has been resolved. If either of you wants to debate ano ...
  Topic: Debate over race and IQ (again)
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PostForum: Racialism in Science, including Craniofacial Anthropometry   Posted: Thu 12 Nov 2009 11:14   Subject: Debate over race and IQ (again)
Thanks. I'll probably order that book on Amazon.
You definitely want to get the book if you are interested in the topic. It is becoming a bit outdated, but is still the best out there. Not only does ...
  Topic: Report again slams Dominican 'racism'...
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PostForum: Latin America   Posted: Thu 12 Nov 2009 01:29   Subject: Report again slams Dominican 'racism'...
Open this and see which flag is missing.
The Puerto Rican flag is missing. What is your point?
 
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