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 Post subject: Ethnic Cleansing in LA
PostPosted: Sun 21 Jan 2007 16:49 
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http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=723


Ethnic cleansing continues in Los Angeles. National "Black leaders" nowhere in sight. In other news, Congressional Black Caucus members continue to hide in their multi million dollar houses.


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That is truly sad. They should just execute all those in prison who are sending out those orders.


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 Post subject: Re: Ethnic Cleansing in LA
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odocoileus wrote:
http://alternet.org/story/46855/?comments


http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=723


Ethnic cleansing continues in Los Angeles. National "Black leaders" nowhere in sight. In other news, Congressional Black Caucus members continue to hide in their multi million dollar houses.


That's because there are no white people involved....Unless whites are secretly manipulating minorities and making them attack each other. Mmmm....I wonder.

Seriously, "Black leaders" at the national level aren't going to get involved beacuse it would upset the relationship they have with emerging "Hispanic leaders". There's no benefit to them financially or in terms of publicity.


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 Post subject: Re: Ethnic Cleansing in LA
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Unless whites are secretly manipulating minorities and making them attack each other. Mmmm....I wonder.

Actually, W.E.B. DuBois, David R. Roediger, and Joe R. Feagin presented evidence of this very thing, especially regarding the stifling of U.S. labor solidarity. The difference is that Roediger and Du Bois do not see eye-to-eye on whether the diversion of potentially powerful working class solidarity into impotent posturing over whiteness was deliberate manipulation by capitalists (WEBDB) or mere lucky coincidence which capitalists exploited once it fell into their laps (DRR). Curiously, Joe R. Feagin's Racist America: Roots, Current Realities, and Future Reparations (New York: Routledge, 2000) seems to lean towards David R. Roediger’s interpretation of W.E.B. Du Bois’s concept of psychological wage of whiteness, whereas the author in person seems to lean towards Du Bois’s view.

In any event, several scholars have persuasively argued that Whites keep non-Whites in line by such manipulation. The only debate is whether it is deliberate and planned (which I personally doubt) or merely an inevitable consequence of America's bizarre social pathology (which I suspect).

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This whole issue is flying under the radar. It is not reported as ethnic cleansing in the mainstream media, who would rather report on more benign intergroup tensions on the illegal immigration issue. I believe the prison connection is also extremely relevant. American society in general would like to believe that the influence of the imprisoned populations is limited to their cell blocks, and it doesn't like to think about prisons or prisoners in general.

I don't know about Houston or Dallas, but this kind of interethnic violence is unheard of elsewhere in the Southwest. I do know that it is understood that Blacks will experience higher levels of harrassment in Juarez, Mexico (the city right across the border from El Paso, Texas). The city is also experiencing a major drug war. Since the violence has not spilled across the border (yet) it is not an issue. But the Mexican Mafia is extremely powerful in the underworld on this side of country.

In short, Black people in LA need to light a fire under their elected representatives, whether they are Black or non-Black. This is a human rights issue, not a "Black" issue for "Black" politicians to deal with. Law-abiding American citizens should not have to live in fear.


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I believe the prison connection is also extremely relevant. American society in general would like to believe that the influence of the imprisoned populations is limited to their cell blocks, and it doesn't like to think about prisons or prisoners in general.


Indeed it is. All of the major race-based prison gangs began in California. All of them-Aryan Brotherhood, Nazi Lowriders, Mexican Mafia, Nuestra Familia, Black Guerilla Family, are a mixture of organized crime group, fraternal society and race/ethnic pride organization. All of them are engaged in extending their power both in the prison system and outside of it.

Today, because of how racism is defined (it’s a white thing) and the presumption of a “natural” bond among non-whites, many refuse to acknowledge the existence of what is, in the strict sense, racism emanating from one non-white group against another. Hence we get either denial that this exists or the claim that the reportage is an attempt to divide a supposedly united people.

I would also add that the worsening relations between blacks and Caribbean Hispanics in New York and other Northeastern cities are due in part to the rise of ethnic-based street gangs IMO.

Chronicling the influence prison gangs on race relations in the free world would make for a great piece of investigative journalism. Here’s a few links to information related to this topic:

From Gangs are Us – Prison Gangs

Audio Links to Stories:

Locked Down - Prison Gangs in Supermax

Gangs Reach Out of Prison to Commit Crimes


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Salsassin wrote:
That is truly sad. They should just execute all those in prison who are sending out those orders.


I agree, but California and its 'bleeding hearts liberals' and ACLU don't really care about Black people. :roll: They would probably defend the Mexican gangs 'civil rights' and want amnesty (i.e Tookie Williams) first ...... :roll:

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Tookie should've been executed a long time ago, and without fanfare.

As it was, he got way more attention than any number of law abiding black Americans who were murdered by black or Latino thugs.


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A story in an LA paper describing events as "ethnic cleansing" would cause all kinds of hell. The LA Riots are still fresh in mind for many.


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