Posted: Fri 26 Oct 2007 13:16 Post subject: Then I agree
FW Sweet says...As you say, many of the grandchildren of assimilated immigrant ancestors adopt the dichotomous racialism unique to the United States, complete with hypodescent and its most extreme manifestation, the ODR. I understand that U.S. dichotomous racialism, with all of its bizarre manifestations, may seem perfectly reasonable and natural to you. I am simply trying to point out that it is unique to the inhabitants of the United States, that it is seen as pathological to people from other countries, and that if you try to impose it involuntarily upon someone of multiracial ancestry who is not an American, they will probably resent it.
ME...well then I actually agree with your statement then...I know things we do here in the mainland of the US are unique...as I'm sure things are "unique" to most regions...so your point is if I think a foriegn born person is "black" just cause they look like me "They" are likely to "resent" it...cool...and if I was visiting the Mayan empire and they served me a chocolate drink they chewed up in their mouth and spit in my cup...I think I'd "resent" that...
FWSWeet says...FWIW, I am writing these words from a hotel room in Santurce, Puerto Rico
Me.... well good for you, it's finally getting cold in Philly and I have three heaters I have to fire-up
Posted: Fri 26 Oct 2007 15:34 Post subject: Re: Then I agree
Monica wrote:
if I think a foreign-born person is "black" just cause they look like me "They" are likely to "resent" it...cool...and if I was visiting the Mayan empire and they served me a chocolate drink they chewed up in their mouth and spit in my cup...I think I'd "resent" that...
This is an interesting point that deserves its own thread. Different cultures have different customs. Some customs of others are disgusting to Americans, especially regarding food (witchety grubs in Australia, dogs in China, horses in France, chocolate in a hypothetical, long-extinct Mayan Empire). And some customs of Americans are disgusting to others, especially regarding U.S. racialism. Are these really equivalent examples? For example-1, is there a qualitative equivalence between what foods people eat and how they are prepared versus imposing an involuntary identity on others? For example-2, do foreigners who visit the United States try forcibly to impose their own food customs upon their hosts?
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well good for you, it's finally getting cold in Philly and I have three heaters I have to fire-up